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Discussion topic: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

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This message was authored by: MaccaPJ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Hi Chris,

 

I returned to Sky as my broadband provider on 18th October 2024, receiving the new white Sky Max Hub router, but have continually experienced terribly poor WiFi connections with devices as well as my Sky Q and Sky Q mini boxes disconnecting from the internet. My home is a simple 2-bed semi detached house and I've never experienced connectivity issues with other providers since moving to my home in April 2018.

 

Sky and OpenReach engineers previously told me to ensure I connect all devices to 2.4ghz via broadband router settings, as this provides a far more stable connection in comparison to the 5ghz. The problem with Sky's new white router is that it's fully controlled by AI, meaning the end user (you and I) no longer have the autonomy to change which device connects to which setting (2.4ghz or 5ghz) on the router, and subsequent visits to my home by Sky engineers has further confirmed this.

 

The only option Sky have been able offer, is to pay extra for their Max Hub WiFi boosters, which I refuse to do simply because the product (Max Hub router) obviously isn't providing the service that I'm paying for.

 

Sadly, I've been complaining about my connectivity issues since early December 2024, but Sky telephone agents insist I am the only customer they have encountered who is experiencing these issues. Kind of feels a little bit like the Post Office when they told their Post Mastsers that they were the only ones experiencing issues with the Horizon computer system... we all know how that played out!! However, I beg to argue this, as, there are currently 1147 posts to date on the Sky Community Forums pages all relating to broadband connectivity issues.

 

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This message was authored by: NaveedZ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

i paid to resolve the issue, that didn't help, i felt cheated that i got stuck for 24m with something i didn't need first, and additionally didn't help.

i managed to return the sky pods and enabled a cable connection to find peace.

clearly the wifi is a problem.

The other day at midnight i had no wifi at home, not sure if there was a sky upgrade or maintenance but i had no internet....low impact as it was sleeping time and i had 5g , pretty sure the cable was working so yeah, sometimes is going on.

 

only workaround was to setup a cable which i didn't want but had to Chris.
- my big complain is we can't decide where the device need to connect, this has become a router for dummy with not much control, i don't like that. 

This message was authored by: Wetry2pvm

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Since moving to Sky and getting FF500 (the white box), we've had the same issue, the connection randomly drops throughout gaming/movie sessions and its incredibly frustrating..... any updates on your end, please let us all know 🙂

-We try 2 pvm.

This message was authored by: NaveedZ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

ethernet cable is the only viable solution. i had to do holes which i really didn't want, i'm now good.

if you can't run ethernet then i don't see nay other solution, or buy another mesh system.... but it is an investment ....

This message was authored by: MaccaPJ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Sadly, the only option Sky agents keep suggesting to resolve the issue, is to insist customers pay additional monthly fees for Sky WiFi Max Hub or Sky WiFi Pods, which they claim 'aims to improve WiFi coverage and performance throughout your home', which are designed 'to elimate WiFi dead spots and come with Enhanced Wall-To-Wall WiFi Guarantee which promises a certain minimum speed in every room'!!
It therefore seems Sky's new AI routers are p*** poor and simply not good enough to provide the broadband service we are all paying for!!

 

Sky, as a communications provider, should be transparent about the technical aspects of their products, particularly when it comes to broadband service, to help customers understand what they are buying and how it should perform., especially when they are faulty or believed to be faulty. Customers should involve Ofcom when they are unable to resolve a complaint with Sky through their internal providers.

 

Sadly, not one single Sky agents I have spoken to since December 2024 was aware that customers cannot access the new (white) broadband router settings with regard to changing devices to from 5.0ghz setting to 2.4ghz to ensure a more consistent and stable WiFi connection to the device. Every Sky agent believe customers cannot change access and change the settings!!!

 

Ofcom states that it 'expects communication service providers to offer transparent and comparable information to customers, ensure they can switch providers easily, and handle complaints effectively. This includes providing clear details about services, including average speeds for broadband, and ensuring customers are not misled or prevented from changing providers. 

This message was authored by: NaveedZ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

i had 2 wifi setup and i had to merge with the whiter router

i was told it's because of wifi 6, not sure how true that is.

i tried to mess around but doesn't work.

also i had devices going to the router instead of the pods, i couldn't assign manually. it was frustrating, i hear you and had the same pain.

This message was authored by: Stuart2303

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Hi , I have an engineer coming this Wednesday, so fingers crossed ,  I will let you know 

This message was authored by: JimM1

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

@MaccaPJ Not sure if you are aware off this or not, but the Sky Max hub has only recently been released to work with the Sky Q and the Mini products, BUT it is no where near what you could do with the SR203 Black hub as it was brought up and built along with the Sky Q and mini all based upon that generation off mesh, so they where far easier to get up and working together.

 

When you go Max with Q then all the rules and connection are different, if you need to get it all gelling together then you will or may need thae assistance of a sky Broadband Specialist who knows also about sky Q and may also need to use a sky SE210 booster also. Take a look at the link below and carefully match the Q with the Max hub!

 

If you have done all this before then sorry for supplying more info!

 

sky connecting devices
https://www.sky.com/help/articles/connect-devices-to-broadband-start

 

This message was authored by: MaccaPJ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Hi Jim,

 

No, I wasn't aware of that.

Probably no surprise that no one in Sky's Technical Team has told me that either, during my conversations with them when I've been passed through.

All I know is Sky staff keep trying to push further 'broadband boosting' products upon me, with each being an additional monthly cost.


I really do appreciate your feedback and advice and I will take a look tomorrow at the link you've kindly shared 👍

 

Many thanks

This message was authored by: JimM1

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

@MaccaPJ No problems about if you need!

This message was authored by: MaccaPJ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Further to my post, I should confirm that the devices I am specifically having connectivity issues with, are the ones that are all showing as being assigned to 5ghz on the router!!

 

And, as previously stated, I've never previously had issues since living in my home, because I've always been able to change the settings to assign devices to 2.4ghz, but the Sky Max (white) router does not allow users access to do this!!

This message was authored by: JimM1

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

@MaccaPJ One off the NOT so helpful features of a Sky Max Hub! Make it easier for some to the detriment off others! Then it's all about how well devices play together or what you have to do to get over the issue!

 

Me NO sky equipment at all apart from the FF500 service from them!

This message was authored by: MaccaPJ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

As Sky claim they 'are no longer allowed' to send out their previous black router to customers who now have the white Max router, they confirmed today that they have removed all 'early termination fees' from my account, which obviously means that I can now end my broadband and full tv subscription service with them without any cost to me, other than what I have used to date.


It just amazes me that so many people I've spoken to at Sky since December, are so unaware that customers cannot change hardly any settings on the white Max router but they also claim to be totally unaware of any connectivity and poor WiFi issues, especially when so many posts and comments in the Community Forums so clearly suggest otherwise!!

 

Such a shame, because I personally always found Sky to be a fair and decent company with genuinely helpful and understanding staff, but not anymore..

This message was authored by: MaccaPJ

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

Just ran a check again .... 🤔🤔🤔

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This message was authored by: JimM1

Re: Unstable connection with new WiFi Max hub

@MaccaPJ See that you currently have two posting's going on so i am going to have to go read both and will look at your picture once it get's cleared for viewing. Surprised sky are doing a combined, TV is normally not associated with the Broadband as it can be used independent so being released from both at the same time is way unusual to say the least.

 

Apart from that, if you get some time can you use your app and connect to the Sky Max hub, interested to know currently what the wpa is set at on the hub, think there is WPA3, WPA3-T, WPA2-PSK etc, 

 

I have NO experience off the sky Max hub the SR213, but the older SR203 used it for many many years, good ISP supplied hub few quirks on it, even though just back to sky March this year would not take the Max when sky insisted that was the way to go, to wise to be fooled by that and a mobile app controlled hub is not for me, had enough of the EE one and it was only partly app which was more NOT working than working, semi web but enough to get by with.

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