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This message was authored by: edgie700

Splitting frequencies

Hi all , been on to sky this morning, I'm getting about low speed on 2.4ghz ( it's actually gone from about 57mbps to about 80mbps ) sky say splitting the 2.4ghz and 5ghz can cause speed and connectivity issues !! I actually got told by sky a few years ago TO spilt them !!! Does anyone else split them ??? 

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@edgie700 What hub do you have now! From yesterday you have now two SR203 hubs and looking to get the max.

2.4Ghz band is good to the 72Mb/s or 150Mb/s and expect around the 100Mb/s mark.

5Ghz band on a wireless N wifi can push to 300Mb/s but do expect it to be around the 200-250Mb/s range.

5Ghz band on full wi-fi 5 is good to 800Mb/s but expect the SR203 to top out at 500-600Mb/s range.

 

Yes to splitting, no reason why not to with the SR203 hub, you have more control over what to do, and the hub is not very good at band steering in the slightest. Everything else with it is pretty damn good.

 

Reading in the link below if you wish to do so.

 

www.wiisfi.com

 

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Feel like I actually know you by now 😂 I'm going to stick with the SR203 , sky B/b tech said it was only doing 90mbps on 2.4ghz because I had spilt the bands !! She also said reset the router and the speed on the 2.4 will rise , well it's not , it's still about 90mbps , gonna leave it be now 

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@edgie700 As long as you 5Ghz devices and if they are capable off pushing the SR203 hard on your FF500, then anywhere up around the 490-500Mb/s is good, find that www.fast.com is not to bad just have to let it do its complete test, takes a minute or so. And the cloudflare is excellent but very detailed and way better on wired connection.

 

https://speed.cloudflare.com/

 

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Thanks , mainly using phones , tablets , iPad , fire sticks on 5ghz because it's faster , I'll have a look at them sites , thanks 

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Getting that on 2.4ghz on my phone , still can't understand why 2.4 doesn't give nearer to the 500mbps package 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

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@edgie700 Take a read at the link i sent you, it is IMPOSIBLE for the 2.4Ghz band to exceed the speeds i put up for you earlier, just will not happen ever, the 5Ghz is fine, latch to that and speed test, you will get up near the 500Mb/s no problems!

 

www.wiisfi.com and read the section on wi-fi4 which is by definition 2.4Ghz connected!

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Thank you , looking at my 98mbps then , that's pretty good !! , thank you for all your help and advice , really appreciate it.

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@edgie700 Take a look at this post i did last week the images are all mine with reference to what the OP was trying to do, you will see that i have split the bands into 3 all sky named BUT i am using my Asus XT8 routers in place of the SR203, the best speed that i can achieve ever combined is around the 2.2Gb/s but that is internal as i like you only have the FF500 pipe to the Internet, and yes your 2.4Ghz is good at the speed you show. What you can get is able to be and could be a little bit higher but more would require and have NO need to push it any harder. Need to find that post again to show but is combined throughput of Ethernet/Wi-fi that the SR would struggle with.

 

Internal speed that can be done using an Asus RouterInternal speed that can be done using an Asus Router

 

 

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Thanks , I'll have a read of that , can I just ask you , if I was to synchronise the 2.4 and 5 back together, the items that I currently have connected to the 2.4 and get the 90mbps would they get the full 480ish Mbps instead ? Thanks 

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@edgie700 The answer to the speed is NO, 2.4Ghz connected devices although just one ssid will still only get you the 100Mb/s speed, Anything that is 5Ghz will go higher in speed.

 

The good thing about having the one |SSID| is that the device will auto connect at the required frequency, ie a 5Ghz device can drop back to 2.4Ghz when required, so on the 5Ghz it pulls the 500-600Mb/s and when it drops back down to the 2.4Ghz band it folds back the speed to your 90Mb/s range.

This is called band steering and the device makes the decission what is best and what to do, i have one Asus laptop it's 13 years old now but it is a wireless wi-fi4 device that has the ability to do 5/2.4 band sync, it hates the SR203 big time, always wants to go low on the 2.4Ghz where i would prefer it to stay on the 5Ghz band, ie 100Mb/s against the 250-300Mb/s. Fix seperate the bands two names and always connect on the band i want. 

 

It's the device there is just NO way off knowing what they will do, spot that easy because the speed is low, can see it because the laptop is not as zippy when network operating. 

 

Try the single band it's easy to switch back and forth it's just the reconnect because one off the ssid names is gone! Going to PM you as well!

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@edgie700 The sky response must be a training issue thing in respones, i once had a sky agent couple years back now would be, at that time was on the 40/10 fttc split, had about 10 devices on the network so even though it was an actual phone issue that i was having she was telling me that because of the devices i had connected, ALL i could ever expect was 4Mb/s that's the 40 divided by the 10 devices, my response was you do know how networks work, yes perfectly well was the response, so i just let it slide NO point in explaining to someone who has NOT a clue.

 

So from the multiple post's that you have and piecing it altogether your FF500 from sky is working, your phone trace on cloudflare is not to bad for the 90Mb/s returned speed, and if you do have a good laptop etc device that can connect via an Ethernet Cable that speed test will show you how good the whole gambit is doing.

 

Fast test on Ethernet i thinkFast test on Ethernet i thinkOOKLA test wireless phone captureOOKLA test wireless phone capture

 

Speed is a variable, sky promise the 400Mb/s minimum, and no doubt they can hold there end up may be about 80% of the time, but as soon as the signal leaves the hub goes out on the Fibre you have NO control over what is done. In a sustained speed during a peak time i have seen the network will not get any better than 220Mb/s, that is by NO means crawling along it's damn fast nothing is getting starved and data is going where it needs, when the network is quite seen the hub even peak up at the 550Mb/s download, and yes that figure is correct because the profile is set at 550/70 on the OR data end.

 

 

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@JimM1 wrote:

 

Speed is a variable, sky promise the 400Mb/s minimum, 

 


Nope: they promise a one month refund of the broadband subscription if the minimum speed isn't delivered for three days in a row.

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@TimmyBGood How very true! As one can say the ploy on words that everyone just needs to hear!!!

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