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Discussion topic: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

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This message was authored by: elliottA1

Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

Hello!

 

I've been trying to resolve this for a while and I have reported it to Sky previously, who issued credits once they did line monitoring due to poor performance in the evenings.

 

Essentially, during the daytime I get the full 900 Mb/s with no issues, as soon as it goes to 6/7pm all the way through to about 22:30, the broadband slows to 5-10Mb/s (latest test is 6.8Mb/s using the Sky Broadband Tester). 

 

I am currently on a wired connection, I have tried:

  • Swapping out cables for new at all points
  • Port forwarding
  • Using a VPN
  • Disabling Shield
  • Restoring the Gateway (tried a few times)

 

Current package, Gigafast - Fibre to the Property - Guaranteed speed is meant to be 600Mb/s. 

 

Has anyone else encountered similar issues on Gigafast/FTTP? 

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

@elliottA1 What sky router do you have, and run an extended ping to google .com on ethernet only to see what you get, ping google.com -n 600, will ping for 10 mins so you can see whats going on with timed responses, ctrl C to stop it.... 

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

@elliottA1 Below is a very detailed speed test and once you run it there are many boxes to look at and see if you can spot what is going on, best to run when you are in a good speed range, and when it is poor. It's unfortunate that there is no way to get a report but you can capture and save opened screens so you can compare at a later date. Sound as if you are in contention, can send you OR blurb if you need.

 

https://speed.cloudflare.com/


 

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

Thanks for responding so quickly! I have the SR213 

 

Currently running the ping.. average 10ms. I seem to get a timeout quite frequently.

 

Ping statistics for 2a00:1450:4009:821::200e:
Packets: Sent = 600, Received = 510, Lost = 90 (15% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 10ms

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

Thanks again! I have ran that, screenshotted in. I will do a few tomorrow and for the next few days to pinpoint when the issue actually starts and what the issue may be. I presume you may be correct on contention issues

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@elliottA1 Timeout's are bad, run it when you know that you have a good internet, you can ctrl a and paste to a document, SR213 router is getting a bad rap just now, i use the SR203 and would not accept the Max under NO circumstance, If i run via the Sky no issues, or if i do via my Asus XT routers also, but on the asus mostly wired/ethernet no problems. Will send you the OR blurb.

 

And for speed related issues good read.

 

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/12/why-buying-gigabit-broadband-doesnt-always-deliver-1gb...

 

 

 

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

@elliottA1 

1. FTTP is a contended service, up to 32 users can be sharing the 2.5Gb backhaul, so you can never expect the full speed all the time, you may get 900mb when there are fewer people using it. I expect that you are sharing the backhaul with many users. If everyone was using it fully, you may only get 78mbs. Its called statistical multiplexing, which relies on the fact that all users are not utilising their connection fully, all of the time.

BT quote up to 900mb, so you are likely to get much less than that during peak times.

Speed tests pass very little data, so normally give a much higher speed.

2. The max OR connect to a splitter is 30 ( 32 is the splitter maximum but policy is 30 ) not every CBT port provided is likely to have a customer using it , so unless on a ‘new site’ that has no alternatives to OR FTTP the actual number on a splitter is likely to be way less , OR currently have about a 30% take up, so maybe 10 users per splitter , plus the majority don’t take 900Mb but slower profiles , and the chances of those ‘on line ‘ at any one time all and doing something intensive, rather than browsing / Netflix that may be consuming less than 30-100Mb , is slim , that’s why there is a 700Mb minimum speed guarantee on 900Mb …..the 2.4Gb will be plenty ,you would have to be incredibly unlucky to have any consistent congestion.

If you suspect PON congestion, try at a time when there won’t be much activity, late evening or early morning .


Although you have tried somethings to ‘ isolate’ the problem , the most obvious thing to do ( that you haven’t apparently tried ) is use the BT router , without doing that , you haven’t really proved anything , your third party router may great , but even great routers can be mis configured or faulty

 

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

I've connected directly into the ONT and re-ran the cloudflare test, and its broadly the same across the board (marginally better packet loss and latency). 

 

Thank you for the information, I understand that completely. I'll retry in the morning and see where I'm at, and log the pings too in a seperate document and raise to Sky when I have a bit more info, it may just be the case that it's contending issues! 

 

Thanks again! 🙂 

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Re: Gigafast - Slow broadband speed in evenings

@elliottA1 Sky FF500 but wireless Asus laptop to Asus XT8 router that is wan - lan to the SR203, and about 20 foot away from the Asus router. Contention here will be very lite fibre only out six months so good few still on copper.

 

 

Ping statistics for 2a00:1450:4009:815::200e:
Packets: Sent = 600, Received = 600, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 16ms, Maximum = 59ms, Average = 18ms

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