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Discussion topic: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

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This message was authored by eveares This message was authored by: eveares

FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

Hi there, a friend of mine says that his Sky Broadband has the fibre cable from the street terminating directley in the Sky Router?

 

Is this correct, as far as I am aware and the way I am familiar with, the fibre cable from the street terminates into a Openreach ONT box and then you have a copper RJ45 ethernet cable to your ISP's router.

Are Sky now terminating the fibre optic cable from the street directley into the broadband router, is my friend mistaken, or is there some other broadband other than FFTC (which of course has a phone line to the router) and FTTP that Sky also offer/sell that my friend may have?

Regards: Elliott.

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This message was authored by mae-3 This message was authored by: mae-3

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

@eveares 

 

The friend is mistaken no Sky routers currently support FTTP (fibre) directly into them, they are all ethernet to the ONT as you suggest. 😎

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This message was authored by peter-marlow+1966 This message was authored by: peter-marlow+1966

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

I  have fttp gigafast  and no it is not a fibre optic cable  from  the  o n t box to the hub  just a normal ethernet cable  I get 900mps , had this since  January  this  year 

eveares
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Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

Can you clarify, ONT or no ONT?

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This message was authored by eveares This message was authored by: eveares

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

@peter-marlow+1966 Are you saying you have a ONT, with fibre from the street and then copper RJ45 to your Sky router?

This message was authored by mae-3 This message was authored by: mae-3

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

@eveares 

 

For FTTP an Optical Network Terminal (ONT) is a must with Sky, and then an ethernet cable is run from the ONT to the router which is via ethernet...

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@eveares 

 

As far as I'm aware, fibreoptic cable landing directly into an ISP router isn't a possible topology on the Openreach network.

 

Even on business grade leased line the optical connection ends up on an Openreach rack-mount termination unit, because that provides the necessary demarcation point between the wholesale circuit and the ISP remit.

 

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This message was authored by eveares This message was authored by: eveares

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

Thanks all for claryfiying what I thought and suspected.

2nd question, what do Sky use for the PPPoE username and password when using 3rd party routers with FTTP connections. I assume the WAN MTU is 1492.

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Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

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Sky in the UK doesn't use PPPoE they use DHCPv4 Option 61 and DHCPv6 PD for authentication.

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@eveares wrote:

 is there some other broadband other than FFTC (which of course has a phone line to the router) and FTTP that Sky also offer/sell that my friend may have?


There is (or was) Ultrafast over G.fast: that uses copper to the address from a local fibre 'pod' rather than a more distant cabinet.  G.fast can potentially deliver 300Mbs, although Sky only ever resold a 150Mbs version.

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This message was authored by mae-3 This message was authored by: mae-3

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

@eveares 

 

And the MTU is 1500 for most connections via FTTC & FTTP in almost all networks UK-wise on IPv4.

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This message was authored by peter-marlow+1966 This message was authored by: peter-marlow+1966

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

Yes I  have full fibre  cable  from  the street with a grey open reach  box on the  outside of  of the  house  then from there fibre optic cable  into the house to my o n t box, installed  in January  by open reach engineer  for sky, sky fttp gigafast  broadband  900mps, changed from copper cable, I live in kent 

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@peter-marlow+1966  Who is your post supposed to be for. Without putting a name in we are non the wiser who you are directing this to and have been asked to used the function so that users know who you are posting to.

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This message was authored by peter-marlow+1966 This message was authored by: peter-marlow+1966

Re: FTTP broadband with fibre cable terminating directly in Sky router?

My house phone  is  now plugged  in to the hub, and my old open reach  master  socket  is  now  no longer used , the open reach engineer  even put the o n t, in a different  room to the old master socket,

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