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This message was authored by: BlackSwan83

Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

Are you allowed to use your own router. 

 

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This message was authored by: daveNOS

Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

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@BlackSwan83 Yes you can, make sure to do your research and get one that can be used with Sky as I believe on some lines they use Option 61 instead of Pppoe.

This message was authored by: Chrisee

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@BlackSwan83 to expand on @daveNOS 's post. Sky permit you to use third party routers but wontprovide support this means if youbwant tobreport a fault you have to connectvthe Sky hub as the diagnostics Sky use have to talk to the hub. You also want be able to use the voice service that Sky provide through the hub to replace standard phone sockets.

 

Sky do not use PPOE in the UK (Ireland is different) rather they use DHCPv4 Option 61 which most but no means all routers support. There is an alternative authentication method DHCPv6 PD but while that works on most lines it depends on the equipment in the exchange which means some dont. 

 

If you are thinking about using a third party router searching the forum can often give you information on how to set it up. Asus models are popular but certain brands like TP-Link only work on certain services. 

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Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

Thank you all for your quick and detailed response. 

 

I previously used a ASUS RT-AC68U AC1900 combined with a Netgear modem for my ADSL line but now i have fiber and an ONT at the property it just isnt connecting.

 

Could i please ask if the above modem is compatible with sky fiber and also do i need username and password to handshake on skys end? Do i need to copy any other info from the sky hub to make it work?

 

Thank you in advance 

 

 

This message was authored by: mae-3

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@BlackSwan83 

 

Full fibre doesn't need a modem as the ONT takes its place, so you should be able to connect the Asus router you have to the ONT directly and set the DHCP Option 61 parameter to 'anything@skydsl|anything' without the single quotes in Asus router under the WAN settings.

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Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

Thanks for the info

 

so anything@skydsl|anything

Is that correct or do i need to seperate after @skydsl then |anything

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@BlackSwan83 

 

That are no spaces in the DHCP Option 61 parameter 'anything@skydsl|anything'.

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This message was authored by: Saarathy

Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

Did it work?

This message was authored by: Chrisee

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@Saarathy multiple reports showing Asus routers work on Sky lines when set up properly. To give any detail thoughforum members need to know if you are in the UK or Ireland and whether you have a full fibre or partial fibre connection.

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Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

Hi, I have full fibre broadband and in Ireland

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@Saarathy 

 


@Saarathy wrote:

Hi, I have full fibre broadband and in Ireland


Then any router will work as Ireland uses PPPoE

 

Nevertheless asus rt ax routers and zenwifi router/mesh setup are a favourite here

 

You need to set up the router as a pppoe connection and enter

 

Username     anything@skydsl

Password      anything

Then you enable vlan id and set the value to 10

 

 

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This message was authored by: Stephen_J

Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

@Chrisee - could you possibly help me with some info, i am looking to have full fibre installed with sky as the isp, i am looking to connect directly to ONT via a netgear nighthawk RAX70. I live in Northern Ireland, I assume this come under the UK authentication methods but i am not certain, are you aware of this?

any help would be appreciated

 

Would you be able to advise of the steps i need to take to configure my Nighthawk to authenticate with Sky and any details i need to enter into the router and where if possible 

 

Many thanks in advance! 

 

This message was authored by: Stephen_J

Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

hi folks - apologies i meant to ask this above question of all, so anyone that can help me! thank you!

This message was authored by: cookiemonsteruk

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@Stephen_J 

 

This is the rax router compatability and firmware requirements

 

It looks like the model below and above the rax70 support the client identifier option 61  required for authentication in the uk

RAX40  

V1.0.3.62 and above

RAX80

V1.0.3.88 and above

There is a possibility  that it may work using dhcpv6 prefix delegation which works on 80% of exchanges


 But usually we advise the asus wifi 6 routers instead 

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Re: Are you allowed to use your own router instead of the sky hub ?

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@Stephen_J Sky use Openreach in Northern Ireland so the set up is the same as the rest of the ghe UK. Netgear routers normally support both Sky's older method of authentication which uses DHCPv4 Option 61 or the newer method of DHCPv6 PD which most but not all exchange equipment supports. There are should be a number of walk throughs on the forum if you search. 

 

Hope thst helps9

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