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Sky announces channel changes for May 2018

A tidier system for +1 channels and enforced HD swaps: Sky has confirmed the changes it will make to its channel listing in 2018.

The changes are due to take place on 1st May 2018, which will trigger some of the biggest moves in the history of Sky's digital satellite TV platform. Sky's final decision on the changes follows a recent consultation with broadcasters and follows growing unease at the cluttered set-up of the current channel listing.

From May 2018, entertainment and documentary channels will reside together in the channel 101-199 range, bringing channels such as Sky One and Discovery closer together. +1 or timeshift versions of entertainment and documentary channels will move to a new home in the 200 channel range. The +1's will receive a channel number mirroring the ordering of the primary channel, so that ITV+1 will appear on 203, Channel 4+1 on 204, Channel 5+1 on 205. If a primary channel changes its number in the 100 range, then the +1 will move in the 200 range as well. Exceptions to +1 channel number mirroring will apply if the 101-199 range fills up and there's an overspill to another channel range.

With documentary channels moving up with the entertainment channels, the news section will no longer be split after the number of news channels exceeded the originally allocated slots. Sport channels were reshuffled last summer, although Sky reserves the right to tidy up channel number allocations.

A precise listing of all the new channel numbers (for each individual channel) will be made available to viewers closer to the time. Channel operators will still be able to buy and swap channel numbers around to make the most of the changes.

In addition, Sky is to enforce a HD swap for regionalised services listed on their EPG prior to the 9th August 2017. ITV is expected to be affected the most by this change, as it is likely to force ITV HD to occupy channel 103 in all regions where the HD simulcast mirrors the existing SD service on 103. For example, viewers in the Anglia East, Central West, Granada, London, Meridian SE, Tyne Tees, West Country (both ex-HTV West and Westcountry areas) and Yorkshire West regions are expected to see ITV HD move to 103 by May 2018. The only exceptions to the rule will be if the relevant HD version of the regionalised channel was "not an exact simulcast" on 9th August 2017 - an opt-out will apply.

The changes may pass by many Sky Q users, who can create their own channel listing between numbers 1 and 99, ordering channels how they like t...

 

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http://www.a516digital.com/2017/11/sky-announces-channel-changes-for-may.html

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Still not sure I can ever understand the need for any +1 channels on a system that has been designed to record and has catch up available, especially as they are, as far as I can remember, only broadcast in SD. Never used one since having Sky many, many years ago. 

Just seems an utter waste of time, waste of channel space and as per the reasons for the changes outlined, are confusing and clutter up the EPG.

Also why not introduce the option to bulk “hide” the SD, +1, Kids, Religion, International, Gaming/Dating/Specialist etc. channels in the same way Adult channels can be hidden, so that those who are not in the least interested can use and view a much clearer EPG? 

I know there is the favourites option but this would seem to be a much quicker and easier way to tidy up the EPG. 

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Not everyone has access to catch up services - there's still quite a large percentage of the population who don't have sufficiently fast broadband (either through lack of availability or perceived lack of need). 

There's also a sizeable chunk of the user base who simply find recording from the +1 easier than finding the download.

 

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@rscott wrote:

Not everyone has access to catch up services - there's still quite a large percentage of the population who don't have sufficiently fast broadband (either through lack of availability or perceived lack of need). 

There's also a sizeable chunk of the user base who simply find recording from the +1 easier than finding the download.

 


Fair point, but there is still a need to be able to hide groups of programs from the EPG and certainly +1’s could be included in this as they are all SD and that could be one that is selectable. 

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+1 channels are useful  if yout recordings happen to exceed the number of tuners on the box, particularly on European football nights. This frequently happens on my Sky+ box and I am glad of the +1 channels

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As @S+L+Smith says very occasionally I have recorded something from a +1 channel especially on sport nights  and not sure if it will appear on catch up, but must admit I can’t stand sd channels, think we have been spoilt with picture quality.

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The +1 channels are a pain in their current numbering allocations.. as mentioned above, one would question if these channels are still relevant..

The biggest issue I have is my kids recording content from the kids channels and the same content again from the +1 channels as they don’t quite understand the concept of +1s resulting in a full hard drive of cartoons and duplications on my sky hd box 

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People need to remember +1 channels are important to many people with HD+ Bxes who still greatly out number Q boxes. 

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@Chrisee wrote:

People need to remember +1 channels are important to many people with HD+ Bxes who still greatly out number Q boxes. 


They are also useful as there are no longer reminders.

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Unfortunately it looks like this welcome change will not fix my personal EPG gripe, BBC 1 regional service in SD on 101 and HD on 115. From the announcement it reads as if this will continue and BBC 1 HD will not be forced to move as it is not a simulcast of the National  output. The number of times BBC mess up and broadcast the wrong channel is huge. I’ll be watching the News in HD and have to switch channels to watch the local news only to get either the local news from another region (normally London) or  the Sports News from the BBC news channel. This is not really a Q problem and I’m not sure who does the switching, Sky or the BBC. Rant over.

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@WorthingGooner It is the BBC who uplink all of their channels not Sky.  It looks like the 101/115 mess will continue for England for the forseeable future, where a local service goes down the London and South East service is substituted on 101. BBC News 24 either shows London or Sports News depending on the time of day during regional opt outs. Different in the other home countries of course Scots get HD on 101 and 102, Wales get HD on 101 but SD on 102 AFAIK

 

Some ITV areas should go HD on 103 but others not if there is no regional HD version of your sub region. It is Ofcom who require that 101 to 104 show the correct regional version with no exceptions. Although quite why we cant have some auto switching system a la red button is beyond me.

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Hi All,

 

The final list for the forthcoming changes (1 May 2018) is out for both ROI and UK, i have the UK list here UK TV Guide

 

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@Roger+Peters wrote:

Still not sure I can ever understand the need for any +1 channels on a system that has been designed to record and has catch up available, especially as they are, as far as I can remember, only broadcast in SD. Never used one since having Sky many, many years ago. 

Just seems an utter waste of time, waste of channel space and as per the reasons for the changes outlined, are confusing and clutter up the EPG.

Also why not introduce the option to bulk “hide” the SD, +1, Kids, Religion, International, Gaming/Dating/Specialist etc. channels in the same way Adult channels can be hidden, so that those who are not in the least interested can use and view a much clearer EPG? 

I know there is the favourites option but this would seem to be a much quicker and easier way to tidy up the EPG. 


BIB: You're forgetting that Sky wasn't developed for this from Day 1. The channel list reflects the incremental developments of the system dating back to the introduction of the digital platform in 1998. It's about legacy support amongst other things.

 

In simpler terms, the +1 channels gave those with non-recording boxes a second chance to catch a programme which they'd missed the start of on the normal time channels. There are still people with basic Sky boxes connected to TVs with nothing more than a SCART lead, even now.

 

There was also a long period before Sky integrated its online catch-up service. That means even those with recording boxes wouldn't have had the possibility to use catch-up because it didn't yet exist. +1 was the catch-up service.

 

Add in the additional fact that not everyone had a +HD box; there were (and still are) standard definition only Sky+ boxes operating in the field, so HD - or the lack of it on the +1 channels - isn't relevant to a certain section of the Sky subscriber base. 

 

Then there are the people who are perfectly happy with a 32" or 37" HD Ready TV which isn't 1080p, and due to it's size and average viewing distance plus some quirks of the picture set-up, SD and HD don't look radically different.

 

Whether you understand it or not, the existence of the +1 channels still serves a valuable purpose for a significant amount of Sky subscribers to make it worthwhile keeping.

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@Roger+Peters wrote:

Still not sure I can ever understand the need for any +1 channels on a system that has been designed to record and has catch up available, especially as they are, as far as I can remember, only broadcast in SD. Never used one since having Sky many, many years ago. 

Just seems an utter waste of time, waste of channel space and as per the reasons for the changes outlined, are confusing and clutter up the EPG.

Also why not introduce the option to bulk “hide” the SD, +1, Kids, Religion, International, Gaming/Dating/Specialist etc. channels in the same way Adult channels can be hidden, so that those who are not in the least interested can use and view a much clearer EPG? 

I know there is the favourites option but this would seem to be a much quicker and easier way to tidy up the EPG. 


One word: accessibility.

 

While Sky now support subtitles for their box sets, most catch up services *still* do not support them.

 

So a +1, especially for those with limited tubers for recording can be the difference between accessing some content or not.

 

They do make a message of an EPG though and I'm glad I'm joining Sky after these changes so I don't need to learn a new EPG list twice!

 

 

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More information available in this community post. Smiley Happy

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Entertainment/Exciting-changes-to-your-Sky-TV-guide/m-p/2827366#M75707


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