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    <title>topic Re: New customer better deals in Account &amp; Billing</title>
    <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4595772#M239727</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2226904"&gt;@doc-ab&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Skys churn rate is rising. It seems daft that following the logic that many have posted ie it costs more to sign up a new Sky customer why lose customers by offering lousy deals? In the insurance market it is now illegal to offer new customers a better deal than existing customers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;Sky, BT, Vodafone and Talk Talk have agreed to ofcom advice to offer new customers the same price as existing customers if they take out a new contract, &amp;nbsp;can same rules be far away for pay tv?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The unfortunate thing in the insurance market is that the end result is all customers being out of pocket as the insurance prices generally went up as a result for all customers. To be honest I quite preferred the old model of having good new customer deals because if you could be bothered and were on-top of your renewal dates you could actively get deals and make a saving. That option has essentially be taken away now (even more annoying when certain types of insurance you obviously have to have for various purposes like car insurance).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I doubt any such legislation would be enforced for TV services, as unlike insurance and broadband, a TV subscription service isn't an essential.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A lot of customers who call for these types of legislation changes which the regulators sell as being "great for customers" generally are never good for your bank balance. The regulators make changes with the idea of making things clearer and more upfront on contracts for those that don't read the T&amp;amp;Cs before or just after signing up, which ends up leading to prices rising throughout the industry.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2024 22:44:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MarkGoldsmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-03-23T22:44:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Better deals for new customers</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4678111#M222334</link>
      <description>Why does a new customer get a better deal than an existing customer?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:44:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4678111#M222334</guid>
      <dc:creator>Deanodrive</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-06-27T10:44:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474000#M239697</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I just watched an advert. A brand new customer can get a sky glass basic package exactly same as I have for nearly 10 pounds a month cheaper fixed for 18 months.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As an existing customer 22 years I pay more!!!&amp;nbsp; New customer get cheaper loyal pay more so so wrong. My contract ends in April so me my glass mobiles Internet will leave&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:25:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474000#M239697</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T14:25:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474009#M239698</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The onus is on the customer to contact Sky and negotiate an acceptable discount. New customer deals won't be fixed but their discount will be. They will be subject to the annual price increase (April in the UK) the same as you.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:33:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474009#M239698</guid>
      <dc:creator>Daniel0210</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T14:33:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474133#M239699</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I fully aware the onus is on the customer. That's why I called them and asked. I was told discount is for the new customer not existing. My argument is why are loyal customers paying more than new!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:36:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474133#M239699</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T16:36:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474141#M239700</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I fully aware the onus is on the customer. That's why I called them and asked. I was told discount is for the new customer not existing. My argument is why are loyal customers paying more than new!!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Presumably because Sky know, from their years of experience, that it takes more to attract new customers to switch to them than it does to incentivise existing customers to stay with them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:43:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474141#M239700</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark39</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T16:43:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474146#M239701</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I was told discount is for the new customer not existing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If your current discount is ending or has ended you are still likely to get another discount but not to the degree of that of a new customer. At the end of the day Sky aren't obliged to offer anyone a discount. So if you don't get an offer that's acceptable you need to be prepared to cancel.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:48:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474146#M239701</guid>
      <dc:creator>Daniel0210</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T16:48:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474157#M239702</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In 2022 the new fsa guidelines came in and said that home and car insurance.&amp;nbsp; That&amp;nbsp; new customers should not be give more discount than existing. This was deemed as illegal as it proved loyal customers were subsequently paying for the company to attract new customer. We all should be treated the same.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:54:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474157#M239702</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T16:54:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474161#M239703</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That was car/home insurance and didn't impact TV subscriptions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 16:57:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474161#M239703</guid>
      <dc:creator>Daniel0210</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T16:57:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474166#M239704</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can I ask simple question do you think it is correct process morally to charge one price for a product to one customer. The charge a higher price to another customer for the same product? Are you willing and happy to pay more?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:00:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474166#M239704</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T17:00:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474180#M239705</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I don't consider it a moral issue. All customers were once new to Sky and were offered a new customer discount at that time. Sky isn't mandatory so it's always possible to switch as a new customer to another provider, if you don't think Sky's price to be acceptable&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:13:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474180#M239705</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark39</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T17:13:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474187#M239706</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a contract until April so I just can't leave. But I accept you are sky biased and accept that would happily&amp;nbsp; pay more for the same product.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:18:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474187#M239706</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T17:18:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474191#M239707</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have a contract until April so I just can't leave. But I accept you are sky biased and accept that would happily&amp;nbsp; pay more for the same product.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Nope, not biased. Nor would I pay more than I thought represented value for money for my Sky products or any other non-mandatory service.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm not interested in what other people pay as it's not relevant to me.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My approach would be the same for any provider.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:23:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474191#M239707</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mark39</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T17:23:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474194#M239708</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have a contract until April so I just can't leave. But I accept you are sky biased and accept that would happily&amp;nbsp; pay more for the same product.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3893861"&gt;@Robert288&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;Having a different opinion to you doesn't make someone biased towards a company, it's amazing how many times that is used when someone here doesn't get 100% agreement with their statement.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It would be nice if every customer was able to get the same price for services, but it's not going to happen, Sky are not going to change what is clearly a very successful business model that favours the business and shareholders.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:24:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474194#M239708</guid>
      <dc:creator>daveNOS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T17:24:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474195#M239709</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Have good day&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:25:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474195#M239709</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T17:25:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474312#M239710</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;FWIW I negotiated a price better than a new customer...&amp;nbsp; Now where does that leave me morally?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 19:32:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474312#M239710</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandJ2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T19:32:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474369#M239711</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3094476"&gt;@PandJ2020&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; I will be amazed if the OP replies to you, you don't share their need to have an echo chamber.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 20:26:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4474369#M239711</guid>
      <dc:creator>daveNOS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-08T20:26:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483707#M239712</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's an excuse, not a reason, rip off&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:52:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483707#M239712</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tony11849</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-18T17:52:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483753#M239713</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3107062"&gt;@Tony11849&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's an excuse, not a reason, rip off&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have no idea which post or comment you are replying to.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:05:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483753#M239713</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandJ2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-18T19:05:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483850#M239714</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3107062"&gt;@Tony11849&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;That's an excuse, not a reason, rip off&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3107062"&gt;@Tony11849&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;care to elaborate?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2023 21:26:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483850#M239714</guid>
      <dc:creator>daveNOS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-18T21:26:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: New customer better deals</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483889#M239715</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT size="2" color="#999999"&gt;(Removed)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;I raised a complaint with sky. Explained my issue. Chap from the valued team called tried to apply the new deal. It would not work so he applied £180&amp;nbsp; discount added to my account the amount I would of lost over the next 18 months. &lt;FONT size="2"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT color="#999999"&gt;(Removed)&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;follow your belief try try try again&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P style="font-size: smaller; color: #939799;"&gt;&lt;I&gt;Moderator note: Removed incorrect information.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:17:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Better-deals-for-new-customers/m-p/4483889#M239715</guid>
      <dc:creator>Robert288</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-11-20T09:17:56Z</dc:date>
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