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    <title>topic Re: Fuming in Account &amp; Billing</title>
    <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815437#M235243</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;SPAN style="color:var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4243760"&gt;@Pikey1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Your post has been escalated to our Community Messaging team who will invite you to a private chat shortly and help you with this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just look out for the chat bubble to start the conversation.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Here's more information on how Community Messaging works - &lt;A href="https://community.sky.com/t5/Did-you-know/Escalating-a-post-to-a-Sky-expert/ba-p/3711147" target="_blank"&gt;https://community.sky.com/t5/Did-you-know/Escalating-a-post-to-a-Sky-expert/ba-p/3711147&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Tom-W19</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-11-11T08:58:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Fuming</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4814658#M235242</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;No signal and outages for years, both phones, spent 3 days on phone to sky anout outages breach of contract aswell as the credit agreement for phones allready payed what there worth now they still want 1500 pounds, &lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT size="2" color="#999999"&gt;(Removed)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; broadband up to superfastnfibre broadnand, i found oit recentley copper wire comes to my house more lies but paid for seven years the way i see it they owe me momey after seben yesrs of loyality, direct debit cancelled, see sky in court. Probably send threatening letters in post thats when i go to court.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P style="font-size: smaller; color: #939799;"&gt;&lt;I&gt;Moderator note: Removed unfounded allegations&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4814658#M235242</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pikey1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-11T08:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fuming</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815437#M235243</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;SPAN style="color:var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4243760"&gt;@Pikey1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Your post has been escalated to our Community Messaging team who will invite you to a private chat shortly and help you with this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just look out for the chat bubble to start the conversation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here's more information on how Community Messaging works - &lt;A href="https://community.sky.com/t5/Did-you-know/Escalating-a-post-to-a-Sky-expert/ba-p/3711147" target="_blank"&gt;https://community.sky.com/t5/Did-you-know/Escalating-a-post-to-a-Sky-expert/ba-p/3711147&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815437#M235243</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tom-W19</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-11T08:58:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fuming</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815441#M235244</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;EDIT: Escalated&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Mobile contracts often run longer than you think - a Swap24 deal is actually 3 years.&amp;nbsp; Perhaps this is why you still owe for them?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I presume you had FTTC instead of FTTP.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 09:00:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815441#M235244</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandJ2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-11T09:00:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fuming</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815456#M235247</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4243760"&gt;@Pikey1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;broadband up to superfastnfibre broadnand, i found oit recentley copper wire comes to my house more lies but paid for seven years the way i see it they owe me momey after seben yesrs of loyality,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;'Superfast' is typically FTTC: fibre optic cable to a local cabinet (within a few kilometres of the subscription address) and then copper phone cable the rest of the way.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;'Ultrafast' is now usually FTTP with the optical circuit extending all the way to the property: there's also the legacy G.fast service sold as 'Ultrafast' but delivered over copper for a short distance.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Confusingly it's quite possible to order a Superfast speed band ('up to' either 40Mbs or 80Mbs) over an Ultrafast-capable optical circuit, but Ultrafast cannot be ordered over FTTC.&amp;nbsp; Only the almost-extinct ADSL broadband, being copper all the way from the telephone exchange, is not legitimately described as either Superfast or Ultrafast.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sky certainly doesn't owe you anything for marketing FTTC as 'Superfast' : that's always been standard industry terminology, and acknowledged as being so by government.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/broadband-faqs/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/broadband-faqs/&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also note it's still a 'Superfast' wholesale broadband service even when the copper line length or quality doesn't permit speed above the 24Mbs or 30Mbs figures quoted there.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ofcom has &lt;EM&gt;finally&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt; recognised this is potentially problematic for consumers, and so is now requiring ISPs to use the terms 'copper', 'part fibre' and 'full fibre'.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Broadband-Talk/Changes-to-how-we-talk-about-Sky-Broadband/ba-p/4747654" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Broadband-Talk/Changes-to-how-we-talk-about-Sky-Broadband/ba-p/4747654&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:26:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4815456#M235247</guid>
      <dc:creator>TimmyBGood</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-11T10:26:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Fuming</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4817980#M235559</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;We are still looking to help you &lt;SPAN style="background: var(--ck-color-mention-background); color: var(--ck-color-mention-text);"&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4243760"&gt;@Pikey1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; . If you need our support let us know and we can re-escalate to our chat team. Your invite has been closed now. Thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:04:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Account-Billing/Fuming/m-p/4817980#M235559</guid>
      <dc:creator>Mr+Flibbles+86</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-13T09:04:06Z</dc:date>
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