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    <title>topic Re: Help with &amp;quot;upgrading&amp;quot; please? - Signature v Ultimate in Sky Q</title>
    <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182612#M722523</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hard to understand the intent of your post, but could be taken a number of ways - so I'll be charitable.&amp;nbsp; I'm a current customer, so the things on my hard drive are legit.&amp;nbsp; No doubt the ability to store things locally originated before the ability to "time shift" as I have been storing things since I started out as a customer - but as a level 16 expert I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Got anything helpful to add, as I'm here for help; not a lecture.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I could really do with some assitance as the product lineup is incredibly confusing.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 16:48:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>markoc1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-01-05T16:48:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182396#M722505</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Joining the boards in the hope of some help please.&amp;nbsp; Customer of 19 years, not that it seems to make a difference.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Just spent 40 minutes on the phone to an agent which was infuriatingly unproductive as they tried to sell me a Glass package and succesfully ignored my questions.&amp;nbsp; Hoping for some help here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Currently I have a SKY Q box and a TV subscription for Signature plus a few other bits, I'm out of contract and looking to renew.&amp;nbsp; Straight TV package only.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can someone help with the following questions?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SKY Ultimate appears to be the same as SKY Signature but includes the basic netflix?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Does the Ultimate package include HD?&amp;nbsp; Currently I'm paying an add on for HD.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;M&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 13:23:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182396#M722505</guid>
      <dc:creator>markoc1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T13:23:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182408#M722506</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SKY Ultimate appears to be the same as SKY Signature but includes the basic netflix?&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Does the Ultimate package include HD?&amp;nbsp; Currently I'm paying an add on for HD.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Yes, Ultimate includes Netflix (used to be only Netflix so Signature required as well). &amp;nbsp;No, Ultimate doesn't include HD so a HD subscription required if you want HD.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 13:29:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182408#M722506</guid>
      <dc:creator>MightyQuinn</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T13:29:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182409#M722507</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Joining the boards in the hope of some help please.&amp;nbsp; Customer of 19 years, not that it seems to make a difference.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just spent 40 minutes on the phone to an agent which was infuriatingly unproductive as they tried to sell me a Glass package and succesfully ignored my questions.&amp;nbsp; Hoping for some help here.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Currently I have a SKY Q box and a TV subscription for Signature plus a few other bits, I'm out of contract and looking to renew.&amp;nbsp; Straight TV package only.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can someone help with the following questions?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;SKY Ultimate appears to be the same as SKY Signature but includes the basic netflix?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;Does the Ultimate package include HD?&amp;nbsp; Currently I'm paying an add on for HD.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;M&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think it is slightly confusing as on SKY Q Ultimate is the name for Netflix only add on (Signature being the main base entertainment)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;On SKY Q HD is not included in anny base &amp;amp; is needed for any HD base channels that are not Free To Air (FTA ones being&amp;nbsp; BBC &amp;amp; ITV etc.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;On Glass/Stream Utimate is includes Signature &amp;amp; Netflix and is the main base (although they now have a trimmed down Essential TV)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;HD is standard on Glass/Stream&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 13:29:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182409#M722507</guid>
      <dc:creator>nigea99</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T13:29:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182533#M722512</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks both - much appeciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not sure about the protocols of posting quoted prices on here, so I won't - however lets just say that the difference between my current "Signature with Netflix added" and "Ultimate including netflix" is £15 a month in my favour.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the basis that the channels are the same for Signature and Ultimate, I'd be better off on Ultimate and still pay the £9 a month for HD.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The lady I spoke to should win a prize for pushing Glass - and was incredulous that I wanted to be able to store programs locally on my Q box,.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;M&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 15:28:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182533#M722512</guid>
      <dc:creator>markoc1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T15:28:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182534#M722513</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;The lady I spoke to should win a prize for pushing Glass - and was incredulous that I wanted to be able to store programs locally on my Q box,.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yup, because the days of local storage are numbered.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The hard drive is for time shifting and not for retaining programmes you do not have the licence for.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 15:30:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182534#M722513</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandJ2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T15:30:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182612#M722523</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hard to understand the intent of your post, but could be taken a number of ways - so I'll be charitable.&amp;nbsp; I'm a current customer, so the things on my hard drive are legit.&amp;nbsp; No doubt the ability to store things locally originated before the ability to "time shift" as I have been storing things since I started out as a customer - but as a level 16 expert I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Got anything helpful to add, as I'm here for help; not a lecture.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I could really do with some assitance as the product lineup is incredibly confusing.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 16:48:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182612#M722523</guid>
      <dc:creator>markoc1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T16:48:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182615#M722524</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;so the things on my hard drive are legit.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm not suggesting otherwise.&amp;nbsp; (Many believe they 'own' the programmes they download, whereas it's a limited licence)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The point of my post was to highlight that those days are numbered as all major broadcasters switch to streaming.&amp;nbsp; That gives the content holders the control over their material.&amp;nbsp; (And annoyingly the ability to inject advertising for example)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Staying on post, you cannot 'record' NetFlix but there's no need to...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 16:54:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182615#M722524</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandJ2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T16:54:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182646#M722526</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks - appreciated.&amp;nbsp; The netflix bit is transient for me; it's the ability to view things I have stored from some time ago and will revisit that I don't want to lose.&amp;nbsp; Plus I'm of a certain age and recognise I fall squarely into the luddite category where I just want something to work, do what I need and be at the best (cheapest) price point.&amp;nbsp; I guess it's my Northern roots.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SKY's pricing structure is less than transparent, with their customer service team little or no help - which I understand as their role is how to best monetise their service.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's like turning up at a dealership with your three year old car that you bought with some options and being told that your only choice is to buy the same car again, but it'll be fractionally cheaper.&amp;nbsp; There is however a much better model available with all the options you've paid for now as standard - and it's cheaper,&amp;nbsp; but you've got to hunt around as they've hidden it somewhere in "new customer only land".&amp;nbsp; Lucky for me though as a loyal customer (fool?), they have a lovely van on sale which is totally not what I need but they'll sell it to me for pretty much the same as I'm paying for my current car - and it has a trendy modern set of features I'll never use, but it must be right for me as it's their flagship thing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If their user interface wasn't so good I'd be long shot of them having ditched the infernal broadband some time ago.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tips and tricks appreciated for getting the best deal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TIA&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;M&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 17:35:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182646#M722526</guid>
      <dc:creator>markoc1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T17:35:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182649#M722527</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry you wrong on Sky stream &amp;amp; glass HD is standard there is no sad channels.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 17:40:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182649#M722527</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveDrizen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T17:40:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182651#M722528</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That should read no sd channels&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 17:41:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182651#M722528</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveDrizen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T17:41:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182687#M722531</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4580374"&gt;@markoc1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tips and tricks appreciated for getting the best deal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Of late I've cancelled then negotiated.&amp;nbsp; YMMV.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 19:02:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182687#M722531</guid>
      <dc:creator>PandJ2020</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T19:02:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Help with "upgrading" please? - Signature v Ultimate</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182738#M722535</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/4546968"&gt;@DaveDrizen&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That should read no sd channels&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;There are channels on Glass &amp;amp; Stream which have SD content.&amp;nbsp; It's more accurate to say that there's no separate HD subscription supplement on the streaming platforms.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 19:48:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Q/Help-with-quot-upgrading-quot-please-Signature-v-Ultimate/m-p/5182738#M722535</guid>
      <dc:creator>TimmyBGood</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-05T19:48:52Z</dc:date>
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