topic Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ? in Sky Q

what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

neil+the+jaws+fan — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:06:30 GMT

Hi, stopping the tv license within next month, not worth the money. I know bbc and the likes are a no no, i know you cant watch it either on sky (what a con) Can we watch the other channels like really , gold, dave, or the programmes that start with sky, i.e. skyhistory and the likes without a license ??. i have tried and tried looking, but very vague online. i know all the bbc will be stopped, i take it ch4 , itv are also not allowed ?

thanks in advance

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

nigea99 — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:10:31 GMT

@neil+the+jaws+fan wrote:

Hi, stopping the tv license within next month, not worth the money. I know bbc and the likes are a no no, i know you cant watch it either on sky (what a con) Can we watch the other channels like really , gold, dave, or the programmes that start with sky, i.e. skyhistory and the likes without a license ??. i have tried and tried looking, but very vague online. i know all the bbc will be stopped, i take it ch4 , itv are also not allowed ?

thanks in advance

hi @neil+the+jaws+fan

you cannot watch any Satellite channels which are deemed as live TV

you can only watch downloads from non BBC channels & use the Streaming Apps

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

Padam_Padam — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:12:34 GMT

@neil+the+jaws+fan

Without a TV licence you are breaking the law if you:

watch TV channels, like BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Dave and international channels
watch TV on pay TV services, like Sky, Virgin Media and BT
watch live TV on streaming services, like YouTube and Amazon Prime Video
use BBC iPlayer*

This includes recording and downloading. On any device.

*A licence is not needed to watch S4C programmes on demand.

You could be prosecuted if we find that you have been watching, recording or downloading programmes illegally. The maximum penalty is a £1,000* fine plus any legal costs and/or compensation you may be ordered to pay.

*The maximum fine is £2,000 in Guernsey.

A standard TV Licence costs £159 and a black and white licence costs £53.50.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

TimmyBGood — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:37:46 GMT

@neil+the+jaws+fan wrote:

i know all the bbc will be stopped, i take it ch4 , itv are also not allowed ?

Unlicenced use isn't 'stopped': it becomes non-legal.

Sky has no visibility of address licencing, and a Sky television platform will deliver a full range of services whether or not these can be legally consumed there: it's the responsibility of the potential viewer(s) to act accordingly.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

neil+the+jaws+fan — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 13:58:56 GMT

even the sky channels i mentioned like dave etc ?? how is a bbc license linked with those ??

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

PandJ2020 — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:04:49 GMT

@neil+the+jaws+fan wrote:
even the sky channels i mentioned like dave etc ?? how is a bbc license linked with those ??

Yes.

It's a TV licence and not a BBC licence.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

TimmyBGood — Wed, 21 Feb 2024 15:12:23 GMT

@neil+the+jaws+fan wrote:

even the sky channels i mentioned like dave etc ?? how is a bbc license linked with those ??

The current legal interpretation is that a TV Licence permits the viewing of any television content or recording of that content 'as it is being broadcast' on any platform (i.e. 'live' or 'nearly live' through a dish, via an aerial or online)

Remember that the underlying law is now two decades old and so largely pre-dates multichannel television, satellite, downloading and streaming: it's essentially the continuation of a century-old bodge to fund the British Broadcasting Corporation as a national entity without using direct taxation (and consequent direct government control)

The BBC is authorised by the Communications Act 2003 to collect and enforce the TV licence fee. Section 363 of the act makes it against the law to install or use a television receiver to watch or record any television programmes as they are being broadcast without a TV licence. Section 365 of the same act requires the payment of the TV licence fee to the BBC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

Paulcfc19 — Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:45:38 GMT

I would love to get Sky Tv but I will not pay the BBC lefty horrible organisation my hard earned money. We are the only country in the world where you have to pay to watch any live TV, It's absolutely shocking

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To watch Sky, we should be able to watch it without having a TV licence

So I go without because I will never pay money to the BBC.

Moderator note: Removed politial comment.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

PandJ2020 — Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:55:44 GMT

@Paulcfc19 wrote:
To watch Sky, we should be able to watch it without having a TV licence

Many agree but we are tied to the law as it stands.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

monkey339 — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 06:38:22 GMT

I'm sure sky could provide a service with an option for people to disable live broadcasting, especially on Streaming Pucks etc.

I'm another person who refuses to fund the BBC & a lot of people I know are starting to feel the same way so an option to subscribe to sky without any live broadcasts really should be looked into.

For now the only option is to stay away from Sky all together for the sake of some included crapy live TV channels that I'd personally never even watch because simply having the capability to watch live TV is enough for the parasites to get you.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

neil+the+jaws+fan — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 07:53:43 GMT

sky is as bad, its garbage. sick of the same films, shows just on rotation. Some films are on every weekend. Or sone crappy 80s comedy just back to back

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

NickNewark — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:02:41 GMT

As long as you are no longer in a contracted period, you can give 31 days notice to Sky TV.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

Daniel0210 — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:17:33 GMT

@neil+the+jaws+fan wrote:

sky is as bad, its garbage. sick of the same films, shows just on rotation. Some films are on every weekend. Or sone crappy 80s comedy just back to back

@neil+the+jaws+fan

If you cancelled your TV licence a year ago presumably you don't subscribe any longer.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

TimmyBGood — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:47:44 GMT

@monkey339 wrote:

I'm sure sky could provide a service with an option for people to disable live broadcasting, especially on Streaming Pucks etc.

As a regulated EPG provider, Sky is obliged to give 'due prominence' to the five PSB channels, with the BBC most prominent. That's UK law and effectively has been for nearly a century: this is a political decision because every government since then has decreed that having a national non-commercial station funded by the general population (first radio, then television) is a 'a good thing'

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

TimmyBGood — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:51:09 GMT

@monkey339 wrote:

simply having the capability to watch live TV is enough for the parasites to get you.

Strictly speaking, no, because pretty much every computer, phone and tablet has that capability. It's the act of viewing which is licenceable, not the possession of hardware.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

monkey339 — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 06:07:03 GMT

@TimmyBGood wrote:
As a regulated EPG provider, Sky is obliged to give 'due prominence' to the five PSB channels, with the BBC most prominent. That's UK law and effectively has been for nearly a century: this is a political decision because every government since then has decreed that having a national non-commercial station funded by the general population (first radio, then television) is a 'a good thing'

Interesting stuff, it's always nice to see how ruthless the BBC is in finding ways to extort our money while also taking away our right to choose.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

monkey339 — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 06:49:49 GMT

@TimmyBGood wrote:
Strictly speaking, no, because pretty much every computer, phone and tablet has that capability. It's the act of viewing which is licenceable, not the possession of hardware.

Yes I'm very aware that "strictly speaking" that is how the laws are written, therefore proof that you use actually use a device to watch/record live TV should be required.

However I follow several anti BBC licence Youtube channels, websites etc & people absolutely do get prosecuted for merely having a device capable of displaying live TV connected up to a TV. This is one of the main things their rent-a-mob “inspectors” looks for if they get warrant to invade your home with a police chaperon & there are videos online showing it.

I’ve either seen or read about many such cases going to court & in every one of those cases the magistrate has just presumed the defendant was guilty of watching/recording live TV & sided with the BBC.

It does seem like the BBC hasn’t yet pushed for phones & laptops etc, possibly because it’d be a massive can of worms? But it does seem like they are becoming increasingly desperate as more & more people are canceling their licences each year & they are trying to claw back revenue by proposing ridiculous laws to link the licence to broadband or streaming TV services etc.

They absolutely do not want people to have the right to choose.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

monkey339 — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 07:20:43 GMT

As a regulated EPG provider, Sky is obliged to give 'due prominence' to the five PSB channels, with the BBC most prominent. That's UK law and effectively has been for nearly a century: this is a political decision because every government since then has decreed that having a national non-commercial station funded by the general population (first radio, then television) is a 'a good thing'

Would they be able to stick to these totally fair & just laws if they gave them 'due prominence' as standard, but also had an option for the device owner to be able to disable live broadcasts if they wished?🤔

I think not having this option will put off a growing number of people like my self. We have Sky broadband under my wifes name & they recently offered her a TV Puck with absolutely loads of stuff included for around an extra £2.50 per month, my wife thought it was a great deal so took them up on it as she has little understanding the outdated TV licencing laws .

When she told me the first thing I done was find out if they have any live broadcast capability, which they do so it looks like we will have to pass on a good thing thanks to the good old Beeb & just send back the equipment.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

TimmyBGood — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 08:11:35 GMT

@monkey339 wrote:

@TimmyBGood wrote:

As a regulated EPG provider, Sky is obliged to give 'due prominence' to the five PSB channels, with the BBC most prominent.

Interesting stuff, it's always nice to see how ruthless the BBC is in finding ways to extort our money while also taking away our right to choose.

Remember the existence of the BBC was, and continues to be, a decision made by UK Government, for nearly 100 years.

Re: what can i watch on sky when i cancel my tv license ?

TimmyBGood — Wed, 05 Feb 2025 08:16:18 GMT

@monkey339 wrote:

@TimmyBGood wrote:
proposing ridiculous laws to link the licence to broadband or streaming TV services etc.

Those are certainly possible, yes, if Government decides the BBC should continue to exist.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2025/two-years-to-decide-how-to-replace-tv-licence/