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When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

andrewuk99 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 11:47:02 GMT

Hello any know when they going to to be truning off the sky satellite?

There are no new sky Q deals at all best i seen is saying £5 on a £70 bill that a joke.

If you look on the new deals for black firday there is no deal and a full price sky Q option.

Moderator note: Amended subject to better reflect query.

Re: sky satellite is now dead

TimmyBGood — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:36:50 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

Hello any know when they going to to be truning off the sky satellite?

There is no 'sky satellite': Sky Group has a contract with SES (the owners of the Astra 28.2E satellite cluster) for data transit through to the end of 2027. The youngest satellite in that cluster was launched in 2014 with an expected 15-year positioning propellant fuel life, so they start getting a bit marginal in operation not long after then, and currently there seems to be no plan to launch new television orbiting platforms into that location (although it's conceivable a unit in a different orbit could be maneuvered there)

https://www.ses.com/press-release/ses-extends-long-term-partnership-sky

Re: sky satellite is now dead

TimmyBGood — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:35:05 GMT

@andrewuk99

And UKTV, which carries channels on Freesat via the same cluster, has a contract 'through the end of the decade'

https://www.ses.com/press-release/uktv-expands-partnership-ses-multi-year-agreement

Re: sky satellite is now dead

andrewuk99 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:35:15 GMT

This is good to now so only realy 3 years. so if the satellite gone soon than planed the be is a big mess.

And as sky spent all the cash on spot the having to puch to streaming.

Oh hum freesat time for us all then.

I wonder if they stop with satellite useage some other company could take over the rights?

Re: sky satellite is now dead

GD1 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:41:09 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

Hello any know when they going to to be truning off the sky satellite?

Sky won't be, they don't have any satellites to control, turn on or turn off. There is no such thing as the Sky Satellite, never has been.

Also your thread title is very misleading, the Astra satellites are not dead

Re: sky satellite is now dead

TimmyBGood — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:43:32 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

Oh hum freesat time for us all then.

Freesat uses the same satellites: that's why only one dish is needed on any individual property.

I wonder if they stop with satellite useage some other company could take over the rights?

In an era of high-speed internet acccess I'd suggest it's incredibly unlikely anyone would want to set up a new business based on 1990s technology. Anyway, no replacement satellites (at about £100,000,000 each) means no signal.

Re: sky satellite is now dead

TimmyBGood — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:53:04 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

Oh hum freesat time for us all then.

The company behind Freesat and Freeview (owned by the UK public service channels) is launching a streaming service next year, presumably in part to prepare for the eventual end of both satellite and digital terrestial television broadcasting: no-one thinks television satellites will be around forever, and terrestrial RF spectrum is a valuable and limited resource ultimately 'owned' by UK government, and so could be sold off after after 2034.

https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/freeview-freesat-new-tv-era-coming/

https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/bbc-itv-c4-and-c5-announce-freely-streaming-tv-service/

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

andrewuk99 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:09:17 GMT

The end of the satellite is not good..

when was the last time UK satellite stop working? with it been due the the weather.

only take some mupper with a digger to cut a cable and it out for days now.

Also if the do removed satllte and terrestrail TV it will not be long before the control 100% of what you watch,

It easy to block a onlne only TV chanel but you cannot block terrestrail.

Just look the new Virgin in Birmingham goes down but Virgin say it wrokng fine no issaue at all. just look at Telewest n IPS who email address had to be black list there network so infected with viruses.

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

Daniel0210 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:12:56 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

only take some mupper with a digger to cut a cable and it out for days now.

@andrewuk99

It would need to be a digger that JCB haven't developed yet as satellites are high up in the sky not underground.

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

TimmyBGood — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:51:14 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

The end of the satellite is not good.

As I observed, television by satellite is a 1990s technology: if no-one is prepared to fund the build and launch of replacement orbiting hardware then it literally has no long-term future.

It easy to block a onlne only TV chanel but you cannot block terrestrail.

RT might disagree ; )

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

TimmyBGood — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:52:34 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

just look at Telewest n IPS who email address had to be black list there network so infected with viruses.

Telewest hasn't existed since 2007.

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

GD1 — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 14:18:54 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

The end of the satellite is not good..

when was the last time UK satellite stop working? with it been due the the weather.  Never as satellites are above the earth at approx 23000 miles, weather only affects the reception locally in extreme circumstances. These particular Satellites themselves have never stopped working. In fact the last issue I can recall with a DTH satellite was decades ago at 19e with Astra 1C when it went on a wobble for a few hours.

only take some mupper with a digger to cut a cable and it out for days now.  Really, gonna have to be a big digger to get to the satellite, or are you referring to broadband?

Also if the do removed satllte and terrestrail TV it will not be long before the control 100% of what you watch,  Not sure where you get your info from, but so far your post is 100% wrong.

It easy to block a onlne only TV chanel but you cannot block terrestrail.  Really, i'd ask RT about this I think they will have very different viewpoint.

Just look the new Virgin in Birmingham goes down but Virgin say it wrokng fine no issaue at all. just look at Telewest n IPS who email address had to be black list there network so infected with viruses.  Unlikley the entire network was infected by a virus, I do wonder where you get your info from, may I suggest you change the source?

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

SparkyDan82 — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:10:56 GMT

Probably a late post to this thread but none of you have seemed to consider how quickly the mobile telephone network technology has developed over the past 10 years, why would any busines operate on a 15yr life span on technology that will be obsolete in 5 years. 10 years time and we will have high speed worldwide coverage through Starlink and other similar satellite networks and along with a comparably high speed mobile network on the ground. Satellite transmitted Sky television is already redundant and it's not a bad thing.

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

andrewuk99 — Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:27:15 GMT

They all cost more for less.

The go down a lot as well.

When was the last sky had a total outage?

it only take on truck drive to knock a pole down it down in your area or a digging to cut a cable

When the last time this happend to sky?

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

cuke — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:06:06 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:
They all cost more for less.
The go down a lot as well.
When was the last sky had a total outage?
it only take on truck drive to knock a pole down it down in your area or a digging to cut a cable
When the last time this happend to sky?

Aargh, now where did I put my tin foil hat....

Re: When will Sky stop using satellite TV?

TimmyBGood — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 12:20:20 GMT

@andrewuk99 wrote:

When was the last sky had a total outage?

it only take on truck drive to knock a pole down it down in your area or a digging to cut a cable

As noted several times above, the key factor isn't the reliability or otherwise of different transmission methods: it's the absolute end of life of the current orbiting broadcast-only platforms when these expend the last of their on-board positioning propellant, and the unlikelihood of anyone being prepared to invest in what's essentially a 1990s technology to launch a new fleet as a replacement.

Yes, individual properties are going to find their 'television signal' fails more often when it's arriving over broadband: that's something we're just going to have to get used to.