topic Re: FTTP query for my postcode in Broadband

FTTP query for my postcode

iAshton — Wed, 15 Jan 2025 09:59:47 GMT

My street in LS19 has recently been cabled by Quickline. Does this mean I'll only get FTTP by moving over to them? They've started mail dropping their initial offer which is less than half my Sky cost.

I'm not sure whether Openreach will do FTTP alongside Quickline in which case I could wait or whether Openreach have 'passed' and will let Quickline have the FTTP business.

Or whether SKY will offer their service over the Quickline infrastructure ( like they do with FTTC and Openreach).

Ours is a semi-rural address. Virgin didn't bother with us so our only option so far has been over the Openreach network.

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

TimmyBGood — Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:02:14 GMT

@iAshton

Sky doesn't offer service over anything but Openreach infrastructure at present: there's a deal with CityFibre becoming available later this year.

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

iAshton — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 08:13:06 GMT

Quickline are now taking advantage of a government grant and installing FTTP to all 18 properties at our address. Individual houses can then chose to upgrade their broadband or stay with their existing supplier - a mixture of Sky, BT, TalkTalk.
So does everyone have to switch ISP to Quickline to get FTTP or will the new connection be available to the other providers?

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

Chrisee — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 08:32:48 GMT

@iAshton yes using the new connection will almost certainly require a change in ISP. It isnt a trivial matter for an ISP like Sky to offer services via an altnet like Quickline and the small size of many of these networks makes it commercially not attractive =even if the altnet offers a wholesale product which most don't.

There were several dozen of these altnets but the number is dropping as they merge or go out of business.

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

Floydianslip — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 09:09:45 GMT

@iAshton

You can do a quick check to see if OR FTTP is available.

https://www.openreach.com/fibre-checker

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

TimmyBGood — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 09:38:57 GMT

@iAshton wrote:

Quickline are now taking advantage of a government grant and installing FTTP to all 18 properties at our address

Indirect Government investment funding, I suspect, rather than a 'grant'

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/08/quickline-secure-250m-funding-to-boost-uk-fttp-broadband-rollout.html

At the end of the day altnets exist to make money for investors and shareholders.

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

JimM1 — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 10:17:10 GMT

@iAshton Quicline will be haapy to take whoever they can get to sign up to them, just be sure if you do that you do not have long to go with your existing contract if so your cost's off switching are/will be covered to the full extent and that OTS is fully functional with the Altnet!

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

iAshton — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:10:56 GMT

So once I have a fibre connected to the property it will be Quickline sending bits over it. Openreach's fibre offering will stop at our nearest cabinet for the foreseeable future.

Are any of these "altnets" required to offer hosting to SKY, TalkTalk, BT et al. Over this connection either now or after a designated period.

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

JimM1 — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:18:36 GMT

@iAshton Would say no, deals are done at a level way above and beyond. Sky are OR and CF only at present, with CF limited by there area's and OR UK wide!

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

TimmyBGood — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 13:03:38 GMT

@iAshton wrote:

Are any of these "altnets" required to offer hosting to SKY, TalkTalk, BT et al. Over this connection either now or after a designated period.

No.

Given the very small geographical footprint of most altnets, it's simply not worthwhile for big Openreach ISPs to negotiate the complex technical and financial arrangements necessary for a carriage deal even if the owners were amenable: CityFibre is a notable exception as they can potentially service several million addresses.

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

iAshton — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 13:35:48 GMT

I'm out of contract so paying through the nose to Sky at the moment so I can switch if I want to. Is there an issue with any Off The Shelf software you've come across?

Re: FTTP query for my postcode

JimM1 — Wed, 03 Sep 2025 13:44:27 GMT

@iAshton The ISP online Forum is where you need to go and check it all out that is where you will find out any pro's or con's etc!