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Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Umbrokhan — Tue, 13 May 2025 23:42:07 GMT

Do I need username and password?

Do i need to enable IPv6 and select DHCP for the WAN or WAN type: PPPoE?

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Chrisee — Wed, 14 May 2025 06:47:23 GMT

@Umbrokhan you are going to have issues connecting a Google WiFi Pro directly to a Sky full fibre service as those units do not support Sky's main authentication system of DHCPv4 Option61. You might have success with the alternate DHCPv6 PD system which 80% of lines can use but I cannot find a walk through online for how to configure your system..

A far simpler set up is to continue to use your Sky hub to manage the connection and simply connect the Google system to one of the LAN ports which will require no configuration changes on the Google system.however you will have a system with double Network Address Translation which can cuase issues with some apps. My preferred solution for my own third party wifi kit is to configure the units to act ac Access Points which removescthst complication as the Sky hub acts as the router. Turning off the Sky hub's wifi is sensible in either set up.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Umbrokhan — Fri, 16 May 2025 05:44:28 GMT

Google WiFi Pro (WiFi 6E) is working perfectly fine without any issues.

Didn't have to type username or password.

Everything works like plug and Play.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Fri, 16 May 2025 06:36:57 GMT

@Umbrokhan It is far easier now to get on the Full Fibre ONT connection and for the connecting device and software to auto connect, glad to know that your Google Pro connected fine.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Sun, 18 May 2025 17:25:59 GMT

@Chrisee - when you mention "My preferred solution for my own third party wifi kit is to configure the units to act ac Access Points which removescthst complication as the Sky hub acts as the router.", what kit do you have.

I've been looking at the Asus Zen WiFi 6 (XT8). I'd it is this one, how have you found it?

Thanks

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Sun, 18 May 2025 17:29:55 GMT

@Chrisee - sorry, just seen this in your signature "TP-Link Deco M4 units in access point mode"

How have you found them?

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Sun, 18 May 2025 17:32:09 GMT

@Whitters23 Asus XT8's work fine, have 2 off them and a RP-AX58 all setup on a sky FF500 feed, as AI Mesh mode.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Sun, 18 May 2025 17:46:50 GMT

@JimM1 @Cool - thank you for the quick response on the XT8's.

Can I ask you a couple of questions?

I have a wired network in my house so was looking at the following setup:

Sky Hub ->(ethernet cable)->switch

from the swich I have a cable going into the lounge. I have a second cable going from the switch to the kitchen so I'm looking at putting one Asus XT8 as an access point in the lounge and the other access point in the kitchen.

When using the XT8's as WiFi access points do they use the WiFi details from the Sky hub or does another WiFi net work need to be setup?

With this setup, is it possible to setup a 'guest network' to all family and friends to use our network but not be on the main network where lots of our devices sit.

Sorry, a few questions there, but I'm hoping you might be able to shed some light on things.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Chrisee — Sun, 18 May 2025 17:48:05 GMT

@Whitters23 my Deco units are excellent delivering 500Mb/s on the main living area dropping to !50 to 200 Mb/s on the bedroom level. If I was buying today I would go for a system offering WiFi6E but frankly I dont need higher speeds to stream videio etc

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Sun, 18 May 2025 17:50:13 GMT

@Chrisee - Thank you for your help and comments.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Sun, 18 May 2025 18:11:37 GMT

@Whitters23 Would advise you to just get access points, the superior Asus router's like the XT8's are just way to good and expensive to waste as using as dumb AP's. Network solution you have is fine for connection, if you are going to do Asus let me know and i will look see what get's stripped out when setting asus up in AP mode. Yes Asus allows ssid naming splitting etc, have my three band names all split and using a skyQ ID from way back in the day with a SR203 password well mixed and matched.

You can goto the Asus uk web site and download the user manual for the XT8's if you want to read up on them. Just pay attention to AP mode and what is removed from operation.

As you intend to Ethernet connect your AP's back to the sky hub (wired backhaul), expect full speed from the locations where you have them, 2 RP-AX58 set in AP mode would set you back £160'ish but there are many more that can/will work, just something if you wish to look at...

Think that the Tp-Link's allow guest mode access to be setup, Asus does have but pretty sure you need to be in router mode operation to do so.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Sun, 18 May 2025 18:35:22 GMT

@Whitters23 Attached the XT8's allowed for guest wi-fi, you can see what can be done, not using so have never bothered setting or testing.

Asus XT8's Guest network

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Sun, 18 May 2025 18:52:41 GMT

@JimM1 - So if I were to use the Asus XT8's I would replace the Sky hub with one of the XT8's and have the other one set up at another point around the house to create the mesh.

I wasn't sure if it was possible to replace the Sky hub, but would be good to do if possible.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Sun, 18 May 2025 19:07:45 GMT

@Whitters23 3 points, for the Asus to replace the SR hub, FF fttp service, if you have copper fttc you need to keep the sky. Can be added to the SR as a double nat, had no issues with that apart from trying to print via the Asus, so had to drop to the SR to do.

2nd, If you have a landline you need to keep the SR especially as the phone is plugged into the back of the hub, no other way to do.

3rd, you lose all the sky help, so need to work out if there is any issue, easy is keep the SR handy and plug it back on to see if there is an issue.

Switching out the SR is the easiest as you will not have to worry about the switch wiring, Asus will go as main router, and 2nd as AI wired backhaul mode, with all the bells and whistles allowed, just a bit off a learning curve, expensive as they are, NO extra charges are required as all is included as you will glimpse on the screen picture if it is approved and you can view it.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Sun, 18 May 2025 19:21:55 GMT

@JimM1 Cool - thanks for the all the info and help. I've got Fibre To The Property so replacing the Sky Router is an option.

A few things to think about before making the jump from my current Google pucks that I've got.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Sun, 18 May 2025 19:30:15 GMT

@Whitters23 Yes to replacing, as long as you do not want the landline use....... Are you google's not router's?

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Mon, 19 May 2025 06:28:32 GMT

@JimM1 Hi. At the moment my setup is:

Sky Router ->(ethernet)-> Google Puck (which is acting as a router) ->(ethernet)->swich ->separate Ethernet cables to google pucks in the lounge and kitchen.

When I'm on WiFi in the lounge I get a max of 250mbps according to fast.com, but I'm paying for a 500mps connection so trying to get up to the holy grail of 500 (or as close as possible to it) around the house.

I've had the Google WiFi for a number of years (well over 5 years). The setup works, but with the way tech moves on it's not as fast as it could be.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Chrisee — Mon, 19 May 2025 06:37:49 GMT

@Whitters23 what apps do you use thst will benefit from faster wifi? In practice apart from downloads there are very few activities that can use your 200Mb/s let alone need more. For example streaming UHD video never uses more than 35Mb/s playing online games averages around 10Mb/s. Higher bandwidth connections are about supporting multiple users at once rather than higher speeds for individual devices.

It is possible to get 500Mb/s in every room and higher but it gets expensive in many homes. Ask yourself do you switch cars when a maker offers one with higher top speed?

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

JimM1 — Mon, 19 May 2025 06:57:47 GMT

@Whitters23 As @Chrisee has pointed out speed is just not everything on a shared network, and you have got to be pushing a download very hard to maximise a server, and hope that it's playing ball with the bandwidth and OR backhaul is keeping you all up.

Asus is not a low cost option, they are very expensive but then again all the NEW kit is up there price wise.

I have NOT one single wi-fi 7 device do not care and only 2 AXe's but no 6Ghz band far as i am concerned waste off money.

I have also sent you a quick PM.

Re: Google Wifi Pro with Sky Full Fibre (FTTP)

Whitters23 — Mon, 19 May 2025 06:54:58 GMT

@Chrisee @Hi Chrisse.

Very wise and though provoking comments you have suggested.

As the Google WiFi pucks I have are are well over 5 years old (I believe they were the original ones Google started selling) they are definitely not WiFi 6 or 6e capable. My partner and I have have iPhone 14's which are WiFi 6 enabled from memory as an example.

We do the usual streaming etc from the internet. We also have a NAS on the network streaming movies, sound and file transfers.

I work from home all week and my partner works from home 3 days a week minimum. So during the day things get used quite a lot.

I know it's an expense to upgrade but I'll be doing it once in a blue moon (hence the many questions to make sure I try and get a good setup 🙂 ) so a few hundred pounds every 5 to 10 years is OK.