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EE to start selling sky stream

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 17:49:30 GMT

Interesting that EE from next week will start selling sky stream with their broadband and mobile plans.

Would be surprised if sky mobile doesn't switch from O2 to EE at some point in the future.

Starting to see proper consolidation of the market now

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Nigelb1972 — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 18:56:19 GMT

How long until EE drop EE TV completely?

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Oct 2024 19:29:58 GMT

Not long.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

stereohaven — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 19:05:59 GMT

@Nigelb1972 wrote:
How long until EE drop EE TV completely?

2 years.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

stereohaven — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 19:08:09 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Would be surprised if sky mobile doesn't switch from O2 to EE at some point in the future.

Now that would improve Sky Mobile.

There is a lot I like about it as an MVNO, but the underlying O2 network is utterly useless.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Nigelb1972 — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 19:10:31 GMT

The O2 network is awful and EE is much better

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

stereohaven — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 19:13:50 GMT

@Nigelb1972 wrote:
The O2 network is awful and EE is much better

100%.

I like the rolling data, the app is fine for managing stuff and the deals are competitive, but the lack of data throughput via O2 kills it dead for us. Been there, done that.

If they swapped to EE I would move 4 SIMs back.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Jporch316 — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 19:46:18 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Interesting that EE from next week will start selling sky stream with their broadband and mobile plans.

Would be surprised if sky mobile doesn't switch from O2 to EE at some point in the future.

Starting to see proper consolidation of the market now

The entire mobile infrastructure in this country is so poor compared to other European countries ..... the archaic planning regs for masts and lack of investment is laughable. It comes to something when Vodafone and 3 say the only way they can afford to improve their networks is by merging. Turning off the 2g and 3G signals has just made things worse.

go to a big city and get 5G icon and watch your mobile speed grind to a halt as you vie with a million other people to share data from one mast .....

rant over !

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Nigelb1972 — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 20:38:52 GMT

@stereohaven as with most of Sky's account management apps, it's all so easy to manage. Got data left, piggybank it.. Need data, pull it out. No faff because it all just works. Which is a fat cry from the telecoms specialists, where nothing seemed to work.

The shonky 5G on O2 has educated me to hunt out open WiFi networks though and I save more data as a result.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Nigelb1972 — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 20:41:14 GMT

@Jporch316 that's so true. We were in Reikavic in February and never dropped below 100mbps on 4G. Here, it's almost impossible to get 30mbps+ on 5G.. For a technology that is supposed to be the best, it's been very poorly deployed here but so was 4G.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Jporch316 — Wed, 09 Oct 2024 20:46:38 GMT

@Nigelb1972 wrote:
@Jporch316 that's so true. We were in Reikavic in February and never dropped below 100mbps on 4G. Here, it's almost impossible to get 30mbps+ on 5G.. For a technology that is supposed to be the best, it's been very poorly deployed here but so was 4G.

Partly government greed and overspending on bidding for bandwidth, partly the inability to erect enough masts. (Legally or morally) partly using Chinese made equipment then having to remove and replace said equipment.

an absolute disaster class

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

stereohaven — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 06:15:39 GMT

That reminds me, when we were with Sky Mobile and went to Spain, the speed and network coverage was excellent.

The £2 daily charge to use it was not and most other MVNO's seem happy to allow you to use an amount of U.K. data when roaming in the EU, up to 14GB on a few I've seen.

Meanwhile, if you use Sky Mobile in Ireland (on Vodafone), data for roaming is included. But that is another thread... 🤣

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Exiled-in-HH — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 06:54:23 GMT

@stereohaven wrote:
@Nigelb1972 wrote:
How long until EE drop EE TV completely?
2 years.

Interesting ... do you have a link to that announcement?

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

stereohaven — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 08:05:42 GMT

@Exiled-in-HH wrote:
@stereohaven wrote:
@Nigelb1972 wrote:
How long until EE drop EE TV completely?
2 years.
Interesting ... do you have a link to that announcement?

No announcement, just my opinion.

I tend to agree with this analysis on RXTV, although I did say this on the EE, BT and AV forums before I read this peice... 😂

Despite reassurances for current customers and promises of further improvements to the EE TV service, it’s difficult to envisage EE wanting to invest in a separate TV platform indefinitely, when Sky Stream offers much more content, having struck more deals with more broadcasters and streaming services.

Today’s announcement looks very much like the beginning of a phased exit from managing its own TV platform, coming only a relatively short time after beginning to offload its sports channels. (BT still holds a share in the TNT Sports joint venture, but is expected to reduce its share in the next few years. Warner Bros Discovery is already the de facto controller of the sports channels in terms of channel management and playout).

This will allow BT Group and its consumer brand EE to focus on its core broadband and mobile business.

As you would expect, various EE/BT staff are saying "everything is normal and nothing will change", but they didn't have a clue about BT Sport being sold until it was, so I suspect the decision has already been made and now it is all about logistics.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Mister_Dalek — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:43:01 GMT

Very intriguing.

I've never had an EETV sales pitch before but I can't imagine it's going to be much fun for the sales team trying to explain the difference between a Sky Stream puck, an EETV Pro box or an Apple TV 4K box and associated multiroom options for each, to a new customer looking for a TV service...

Pricing will be interesting. Will the requirement of taking EE broadband affect the price of the Sky Stream service? Why would you want EE's broadband over Sky's broadband? Will broadband/Stream deals be comparable between the two?

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Super+Anthony — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 12:07:41 GMT

Wonder if one will be able to transfer account over to EE? Hopefully yes

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

TimmyBGood — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:32:42 GMT

@Mister_Dalek wrote:

Why would you want EE's broadband over Sky's broadband?

EE is in the process of inheriting twelve million domestic broadband customers from BT: that's a very substantial user base to target with upselling to Stream.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Mister_Dalek — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:53:26 GMT

@TimmyBGood wrote:
@Mister_Dalek wrote:
Why would you want EE's broadband over Sky's broadband?
EE is in the process of inheriting twelve million domestic broadband customers from BT: that's a very substantial user base to target with upselling to Stream.

That's bound to be the main thrust of why they're doing this. Stream from EE will largely be an upselling tool.

EE's broadband costs are a lot higher than Sky's, I'm just thinking that if I was a new customer looking for a decent broadband and TV package, it would make no sense whatsoever to get it from EE unless Stream was massively discounted (which I very much doubt it will be.)

300Mbps full fibre is currently £34.99pm from EE on a 24 month contract.

The same speed from Sky is currently £29pm on a 24 month contract.

500Mbps is £39.99pm with EE vs £33pm with Sky.

It'll probably be the case that if you pop into an EE store to get a mobile contract or a phone case or whatever, they'll offer you the chance to take away a Stream puck there and then if you sign up to a new 24 month Sky contract.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Bulls1974 — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:26:06 GMT

EE and BT are the same Company.

Sky moved away from BT when it bought EE, as there competitors.

I don't expect a fresh move from Sky. EE are selling Sky packages as had previously been mentioned.

Re: EE to start selling sky stream

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Oct 2024 11:21:07 GMT

EE are simply selling the sky stream packages, there is no billing integration. Effectively there is no difference from a consumer prospective as to whether they buy from sky or EE ( except cost is lower on sky)

I suspect that EE are receiving a commission per person who signs up or they have received preferential cost for NOW tv wholesale costs, which means that each EE tv sale with Now Tv is more profitable