topic Re: Premier Sports availability? in Sky Stream

Premier Sports availability?

Scorp1 — Wed, 03 Apr 2024 19:59:03 GMT

Will Premier Sports be available on Sky Stream when it relaunches on 9th April?

Re: Premier Sports availability?

MarkGoldsmith — Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:27:33 GMT

I would doubt it.

Perhaps potentially at some point in the future, but i'd suggest it would take a while for Premier Sports to get themselves on the Sky stream platform.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 06:22:57 GMT

It's available via Amazon prime channels I believe.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 06:35:53 GMT

Just to add that Viaplay channels are all available on alternative stream service, these will change to premier sports in a few days. So it is possible that the channels at some point will move on to Sky stream. This will be a commercial decision for premier and Sky, but I suspect hinges mainly on Sky, bearing in mind that they are broadcasting on virgin stream

Re: Premier Sports availability?

IWTD — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 10:48:55 GMT

I may be wrong on this but I suspect the biggest issue that's keeping third party subscriptions that maintain their own billing such as Viaplay/Premier, DAZN etc off stream and glass are that there is no viewing card number to provide them. so I wouldn't hold my breath on any of their channels appearing as actual channels on the EPG.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

SKY1992bf — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 10:53:35 GMT

@IWTD wrote:
I may be wrong on this but I suspect the biggest issue that's keeping third party subscriptions that maintain their own billing such as Viaplay/Premier, DAZN etc off stream and glass are that there is no viewing card number to provide them. so I wouldn't hold my breath on any of their channels appearing as actual channels on the EPG.

I don't know for sure either but the above is not a bad assumption at all

Re: Premier Sports availability?

MarkGoldsmith — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 11:54:56 GMT

@SKY1992bf wrote:
@IWTD wrote:
I may be wrong on this but I suspect the biggest issue that's keeping third party subscriptions that maintain their own billing such as Viaplay/Premier, DAZN etc off stream and glass are that there is no viewing card number to provide them. so I wouldn't hold my breath on any of their channels appearing as actual channels on the EPG.
I don't know for sure either but the above is not a bad assumption at all

Certainly probably partly explains why its going to take a prolonged period for DAZN to get their app deployed onto Sky hardware. As per their press release at the end of last year, they said it would take until towards the end of 2024 until the service is available.

Premier Sports Sky Glass

Bigkenny1975 — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 11:57:39 GMT

Before I got Sky Glass I signed up to a one year deal for Viaplay. I was disappointed it wasn't on Sky Glass but was able to stream the matches I wanted to watch using a Roku Dongle. Now that Premier Sports is taking over Viaplay will there be any chance we could get the channels on Sky Glass?

Re: Premier Sports Sky Glass

nolte — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 12:12:08 GMT

That would be a decision for premier sports to make as it is up to them if they want to be listed on sky glass

Re: Premier Sports Sky Glass

MarkGoldsmith — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 12:13:29 GMT

There is already a thread discussing this here: https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Sky-Stream/Premier-Sports-availability/m-p/4605501/emcs_t/S2h8ZW1haWx8dG9waWNfc3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ufExVTDRDT1U5N0lLOE5OfDQ2MDU1MDF8U1VCU0NSSVBUSU9OU3xoSw#M21561

Re: Premier Sports Sky Glass

caesarome — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 12:17:37 GMT

Thanks @MarkGoldsmith , topics merged.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

IWTD — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 12:17:39 GMT

@MarkGoldsmith I am a DAZN subscriber and no viewing card should have absolutely nothing to do with the apps delay, the app uses your email/password logging, the viewing card number was only for the DAZN 1 channel that is 429 on satellite, and it is basically the equivalent of Sky Sports Main Event, the app is a better experience anyway as it offers all the content live and on demand, when I still had Q I switched to the app anyway.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

MarkGoldsmith — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:03:02 GMT

@IWTD wrote:
@MarkGoldsmith I am a DAZN subscriber and no viewing card should have absolutely nothing to do with the apps delay, the app uses your email/password logging, the viewing card number was only for the DAZN 1 channel that is 429 on satellite, and it is basically the equivalent of Sky Sports Main Event, the app is a better experience anyway as it offers all the content live and on demand, when I still had Q I switched to the app anyway.

Not where there is the use case and desire from both parties to allow billing through Sky similar to other third party apps like Disney and Paramount.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

IWTD — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:28:24 GMT

@MarkGoldsmith

DAZN have made no mention of wanting Sky to handle the billing as far as I am aware, and even Sky are going to handle the billing then the viewing card is again irrelevant, it would work in the same way as Netflix, TNT/Discovey, Cinema/Paramount.

Going back to the original point I made and I again I don't know if this is fact, but the viewing card is I assume required for third party subscriptions to provide a linear EPG channel only.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

MarkGoldsmith — Thu, 04 Apr 2024 14:29:16 GMT

@IWTD wrote:
@MarkGoldsmith
DAZN have made no mention of wanting Sky to handle the billing as far as I am aware, and even Sky are going to handle the billing then the viewing card is again irrelevant, it would work in the same way as Netflix, TNT/Discovey, Cinema/Paramount.

Going back to the original point I made and I again I don't know if this is fact, but the viewing card is I assume required for third party subscriptions to provide a linear EPG channel only.

It still relates to your point about the lack of viewing card though, as you need a mechanism to integrate the different billing systems to verify that a subscriber on Sky has access to that relevant platform though.

If you look at how that integration is done via the apps, you could probably assume that something similar would need to be required if it were possible to control if via EPG channels.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

Ja3k — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 12:09:43 GMT

I Pay For Sky Glass And Viaplay For My TV Upstairs Tryed To Find Premier Sports On Sky Glass Then Called Them They Said It's Not Available Then I Checked Amazon Prime To Find It For 15 Quid If I Cancel My Premier For Sky Q Will I Still Get My Premier Upstairs If I Took Out Premier Sports On Amazon Prime Note I Do Have Prime Already Please Help Me

Re: Premier Sports availability?

Hunter2660 — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:04:47 GMT

You'll have to watch via Amazon Prime only.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:12:17 GMT

The argument about these channels ( premier sports, that's tv, talking pictures tv to name a few) is constantly " that will be a decision for the broadcaster inferring it's not Skys decision doesn't ring true with me. All of these channels are available on virgin media's stream service - this suggests to me that the issue is with Sky and not the third party broadcaster - in actual fact about 6 weeks ago - VM upgraded their stream service to replicate the channels on their standard cable 360 service, they even include all the +1 channels. Sky in my honest opinion either don't want these channels on their stream service or are making the commercial terms uneconomical for them, otherwise why would they all be on virgin stream ?

Re: Premier Sports availability?

IWTD — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 14:33:04 GMT

@Anonymous Their are on Virgin Stream because Virgin handle the billing, Sky do not and you have to provide a viewing card number which stream does not have, if you have BT broadband and pay them for TNT and move from Q the entitlement carries over, if you try and take out a new TNT subscription through BT and already have Stream they will not let you, it's simply either Premier don't want to hand over a piece of the pie and allow Sky to handle the billing, or Sky don't want to handle the billing.

Re: Premier Sports availability?

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:07:20 GMT

yes maybe in the case of premier sports - your argument doesn't hold up though for channels such as

That's tv

Talking Pictires tv

all the + 1 channels

Now 70's Now 80's

none of the above and many others are available on virgin stream and not sky stream - the constant argument is that the reasoning is down to the third party broadcaster - clearly this isn't the case as they are all on virgin stream - none of these channels are paid channels -

secondly in the case of channels such as premier sports - sky are part of a multi billion pound organisation - why can't they handle their billing ?

sorry can't agree