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Recording on Sky glass or stream

Cold+Sweat — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:45:01 GMT

I used to have the Sky Q box, and could record 7 different channels at the same time.

I keep getting Sky asking me to come back, but the chances are slim, because as I understand it you can't record programmes at all via Sky glass or Sky stream.

This has always been an important feature for me as I could record things then watch them at a later date.

Of course there is catch up tv, but normally my partner is doing that trying to catch up on her stuff. I like to record and document my programs seperatly.

Basically if Sky offers me a cracking deal with a Sky Q box I would come back. Theres no need for a new dish as I currently use that on an old HD Sky box, for some of the free channels that isn't available elsewhere. Clubland TV for example is only available free on the Sky network.

So in a nutshell the Sky stream or glass tvs don't appeal to me whatsoever.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:48:28 GMT

@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Basically if Sky offers me a cracking deal with a Sky Q box I would come back.

If Comcast (historically a cable company) sees no long-term future in broadcast satellite television then the days of the 'cracking deal' on Q are probably behind us.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

Cold+Sweat — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:06:25 GMT

But Sky need to do more to encourage customers back like myself that sees these features as key to winning me back.

To be able to record is vital because I will be browsing the program guide and see something I want to record and watch later, but if I didn't do that, I might never have seen it. Recording is a way of grabbing something that you wouldn't think of trying to find on catch up as I might not know it exists.

I don't tend to waste time trawling through the catch up guide, I tend to randomly spot something while watching live tv, then think oh I want to see that, but can't at that moment as someone else is watching something else.

These days we are spoilt with things to watch, its difficult to remember what you want to watch, and I guess I'm old school, but to me recording is a useful feature.

We currently have a BT box for tv but you can only record 2 channels and watch another, otherwise it kicks you off what your watching, which really annoys me.

I quite often have issues where I have to cancel one recording just so my partner can watch something else. But the Sky Q box could record 7 channels.

I feel in my opinion theres still a strong reason for Sky to maintain the dish and Sky Q equipment as an alternative, but to be honest is the streaming that should be viewed as the alternative as Sky Q came first.

Sometimes technology changes too quickly for people's habits to keep up, and not always change is better.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:57:41 GMT

@Cold+Sweat wrote:

I feel in my opinion theres still a strong reason for Sky to maintain the dish and Sky Q equipment as an alternative, but to be honest is the streaming that should be viewed as the alternative as Sky Q came first.

Sometimes technology changes too quickly for people's habits to keep up, and not always change is better.

Sky doesn't own or run the orbiting hardware: if SES and its investors don't anticipate long term financial return from replacing the Astra 28.2E cluster by the end of this decade then there won't be anything up there for Sky dishes to point at...

As I've said elsewhere, satellite television is a 1980s technology which has had a really good (half-century) innings, but no inherent right to continue in a world full of cheap internet bandwidth that doesn't involve actual rocket science.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

Exiled-in-HH — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:14:27 GMT

You can browse the TV Guide and add something to your playlist🤔

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

MarkGoldsmith — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:36:18 GMT

@Cold+Sweat wrote:
But Sky need to do more to encourage customers back like myself that sees these features as key to winning me back.

To be able to record is vital because I will be browsing the program guide and see something I want to record and watch later, but if I didn't do that, I might never have seen it. Recording is a way of grabbing something that you wouldn't think of trying to find on catch up as I might not know it exists.

I don't tend to waste time trawling through the catch up guide, I tend to randomly spot something while watching live tv, then think oh I want to see that, but can't at that moment as someone else is watching something else.
These days we are spoilt with things to watch, its difficult to remember what you want to watch, and I guess I'm old school, but to me recording is a useful feature.
We currently have a BT box for tv but you can only record 2 channels and watch another, otherwise it kicks you off what your watching, which really annoys me.
I quite often have issues where I have to cancel one recording just so my partner can watch something else. But the Sky Q box could record 7 channels.
I feel in my opinion theres still a strong reason for Sky to maintain the dish and Sky Q equipment as an alternative, but to be honest is the streaming that should be viewed as the alternative as Sky Q came first.
Sometimes technology changes too quickly for people's habits to keep up, and not always change is better.

Unfortunately not when the broadcasting industry is viewing streaming as the future of television. The rights holders of all the films/programmes don't like people recording shows and keeping them indefinity, that plus the cheaper cost of providing via streaming is why the broadcasters and media companies are going all-in on streaming. I suspect by the end of the decade it will all be streaming.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:46:43 GMT

@MarkGoldsmith wrote:

@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Sometimes technology changes too quickly for people's habits to keep up, and not always change is better.

The rights holders of all the films/programmes don't like people recording shows and keeping them indefinity, that plus the cheaper cost of providing via streaming is why the broadcasters and media companies are going all-in on streaming.

And potential government clawback of RF spectrum threatening the future of Freeview

https://www.everyonetv.co.uk/news/press-release/new-free-tv-service-via-ip

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

MarkGoldsmith — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:47:51 GMT

@TimmyBGood wrote:
@MarkGoldsmith wrote:
@Cold+Sweat wrote:

Sometimes technology changes too quickly for people's habits to keep up, and not always change is better.
The rights holders of all the films/programmes don't like people recording shows and keeping them indefinity, that plus the cheaper cost of providing via streaming is why the broadcasters and media companies are going all-in on streaming.
And potential government clawback of RF spectrum threatening the future of Freeview

https://www.everyonetv.co.uk/news/press-release/new-free-tv-service-via-ip

I'm certainly intrigued to see how Freely turns out.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 15:54:06 GMT

@MarkGoldsmith wrote:

I'm certainly intrigued to see how Freely turns out.

I think it could be very good, but the insistence on only integrating with Hisense televisions initially is a bit odd.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

MarkGoldsmith — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:09:57 GMT

@TimmyBGood wrote:
@MarkGoldsmith wrote:
I'm certainly intrigued to see how Freely turns out.
I think it could be very good, but the insistence on only integrating with Hisense televisions initially is a bit odd.

I expect that to change eventually, i wonder if its their way of managing the launch and therefore uptake of customers initially to help them slowly scale up and address issues.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

Exiled-in-HH — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:32:56 GMT

Somebody has to be first....

More details around Freely will be announced in 2024, including additional smart TV partners and launch timings.

Also Hisense is one of the major suppliers to the U.K. market🤔

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

Cold+Sweat — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:07:01 GMT

The problem with streaming taking over the dish, or aerial, not everyone has the Internet.

My parents fit into that category, they have no reason for the internet.

They just watch normal live tv.

Will people like that get left behind.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

Exiled-in-HH — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:25:54 GMT

It can be said they have already been left behind🤔

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

MarkGoldsmith — Tue, 23 Jan 2024 18:45:37 GMT

Likely in all honestly. You could argue it's similarity to the roll out of digital tv where some parts of the country couldn't get a signal, however broadband as been around long enough and is getting upgraded in most places to provide the infrastructure for everyone to be able to stream. Undoubtedly some parts of the country will be affected by not having the upgraded infrastructure in time as is always the case with this big switches.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:11:26 GMT

@Cold+Sweat wrote:

My parents fit into that category, they have no reason for the internet.

Worth noting that internet access is required for all 'landline' telephone calls by the end of next year.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/future-of-landline-calls

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:28:53 GMT

@Cold+Sweat wrote:

They just watch normal live tv.

Will people like that get left behind.

'normal live tv' currently requires signal reception from a local DTTV transmitter or a satellite.

Once there are no operational television broadcast satellites with a footprint over the UK (around 2030 if the current fleet is not replaced by SES) and if the frequency spectrum used by Freeview broadcast is withdrawn by government (with 2034 being a significant year) then there's simply not any broadcast transmission mechanism: internet access becomes the only data pathway.

Given something like 16 million UK domestic properties currently use DTTV ('Freeview'), any government in the next decade would need to oversee a transition to online-only 'television' rather carefully. It is worth considering that a roughly similar transition has already been done once with the move from analogue to digital television, though, and is currently underway for 'landline' telephony.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

GRIFF2013 — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:08:50 GMT

My guess is that now EE have introduced recording on their box , Sky will probably have to respond.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

MarkGoldsmith — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:13:52 GMT

@GRIFF2013 wrote:
My guess is that now EE have introduced recording on their box , Sky will probably have to respond.

Thats not physically possible as Sky Glass and Sky Stream dont have hard drives.

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

GRIFF2013 — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:23:28 GMT

Yes, by respond, I meant luanch a similar product I.e one with a hard drive

Re: Recording on Sky glass or stream

TimmyBGood — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:52:11 GMT

@GRIFF2013 wrote:

now EE have introduced recording on their box

Only on the big EE TV box (the 'Pro'): the 'EE TV Box Mini' doesn't record.

Historically Sky hasn't really seen BT/EE TV as a significant competitor because it was in a different market space (and tied to BT as an ISP anyway)