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Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

Chocolate+Granny — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 09:21:05 GMT

We were watching ET with our granddaughter. When she came back it was gone from the playlist. This also happened with a snooker championship we were catching up with.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

Jayboy1990 — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 09:40:32 GMT

They could have expired, what app were you watching ET from?

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

Aaln — Wed, 05 Jan 2022 12:38:08 GMT

I'm guessing these were live programmes and you didn't + them?

Live programmes you don't add to Playlist don't get cloud recorded.

If you did but there was only a broadcast licence and not an on demand licence then you won't see it.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

Chocolate+Granny — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:35:08 GMT

IPlayer

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

fizzdisco — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 10:56:50 GMT

@Chocolate+Granny

Films are only usually licenced for 30 days of streaming on the iPlayer. After that period they disappear. This is the same on iPlayer on all platforms, not just Glass.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

Chocolate+Granny — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 11:16:22 GMT

That's really good to know, but it's less than 3 weeks since I added it to the playlist.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

TimmyBGood — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 11:27:16 GMT

@Chocolate+Granny

But if the broadcast date was a week before then...

Where children are concerned, I'd strongly advise investing a few pounds in a DVD player and box full of charity shop optical disks to avoid such trauma. These tend to be better value for all the 'making of' features too.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

fizzdisco — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 12:00:08 GMT

@Chocolate+Granny

You've come across the biggest difference between a streaming service and a broadcast service.

With a streaming service such as Sky Glass, any content you add to your playlist is only there for as long as the original owner of that content has the licence for it. In your case, the owner was the BBC who had the licence to stream E.T. for 30 days on iPlayer from the first day of transmission. After that 30 days, it is removed, regardless of when you added it to your playlist.

With a broadcast service, such as Sky Q or Freeview, you have much more control over content, because you can physically record it to a hard drive. If you had recorded E.T. when it was broadcast to a Sky Q box or to a Freeview recorder, it would remain there until you decided to delete it. The broadcaster cannot delete things you have recorded from a broadcast.

If Sky Glass is your only source of TV then it's something you'll have to get used to I'm afraid.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

TimmyBGood — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 12:03:12 GMT

@fizzdisco wrote:

The broadcaster cannot delete things you have recorded from a broadcast.

Well, Sky could. They just don't, presumably because the broadcast channel owners aren't required by the content providers to insist on it.

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

fizzdisco — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 12:06:51 GMT

@TimmyBGood wrote:
@fizzdisco wrote:

The broadcaster cannot delete things you have recorded from a broadcast.

Well, Sky could. They just don't, presumably because the broadcast channel owners aren't required by the content providers to insist on it.

Really? Actually delete content from a Q box hard drive? I know they can prevent On Demand downloads from being played back if a licence has expired, but actual recordings from a broadcast?

Re: Part watched programs disappearing from playlist

TimmyBGood — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 12:26:27 GMT

@fizzdisco wrote:

Really? Actually delete content from a Q box hard drive? I know they can prevent On Demand downloads from being played back if a licence has expired, but actual recordings from a broadcast?

I'm saying it's technically possible: it's their hardware and OS. They've just never been required to do so by content distributors: I doubt we as consumers/subscribers actually have any 'rights' in this respect*.

* apart from this one, which is just the limited exemption from copywrite protection required to make a recording for time-shifting not actually illegal.