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New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:25:43 GMT

Hi folks ..getting the new sky hub 4 delivered on Friday 12th November.

It's to replace the sky hub 3 which was using superfast WiFi, and we're moving to ultrafast .

My question is we are told that a sky engineer is coming out next Tuesday..not sure why but when I get the new hub4 do I connect it up myself or wait until sky call on Tuesday. Just another question is we have the hub3 atm connected to the main phone line box but we don't have a home phone do I still need it or the new one(hub4) to be connected to the phone line box ??

Re: New sky 4 hub .

GD1 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:33:44 GMT

@mdc4566 wrote:
Hi folks ..getting the new sky hub 4 delivered on Friday 12th November.
It's to replace the sky hub 3 which was using superfast WiFi, and we're moving to ultrafast .
My question is we are told that a sky engineer is coming out next Tuesday..not sure why but when I get the new hub4 do I connect it up myself or wait until sky call on Tuesday. Just another question is we have the hub3 atm connected to the main phone line box but we don't have a home phone do I still need it or the new one(hub4) to be connected to the phone line box ??

Presumably if your moving to Ultrafast then it is FTTP? If so then yes an engineer would be needed to install the ONT and FTTP fibre cable.

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:35:03 GMT

FTTP...?

ONT...?

Does the hub need connected to the phone line even though we haven't had a home phone for years .

Re: New sky 4 hub .

GD1 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:45:56 GMT

@mdc4566 wrote:
FTTP...?
ONT...?
Does the hub need connected to the phone line even though we haven't had a home phone for years .

FTTP is fibre to the Premises, this does need what is called an ONT, your old phone line would nopt be used. What info did you get from Sky when you upgraded, what speeds have they said you would get?

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:49:20 GMT

We live in a relatively new build with no over head lines in the street ...Will this fibre optic cable work be done out in the street /junction box rather than in the house ?

Re: New sky 4 hub .

GD1 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:51:48 GMT

@mdc4566 wrote:
We live in a relatively new build with no over head lines in the street ...Will this fibre optic cable work be done out in the street /junction box rather than in the house ?

If there is not already a connection the work will need to be done within the house also. Certainly the ONT has to be inside.

Re: New sky 4 hub .

jamesn123 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 15:13:57 GMT

Hi @mdc4566

Leave the hub until the engineer arrives, then you can connect it. As mentioned Ultrafast does not use your exsiting copper phone line it is delivered over fibre cables which will be pulled into your house and connected to a white Openreach Box which will then feed your router.

Once this service is active you will connect any phones you have to the back of the router rather than your telephone socket.

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 15:27:17 GMT

Thanks ..I really don't see how he's gonna get the fibre cables into the house...we have solid concrete floors and solid block walls ...unless they just run them to the junction box in the street ...sorry I'm showing my ignorance here .

Re: New sky 4 hub .

TimmyBGood — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:12:48 GMT

@mdc4566

Ultrafast comes in two different flavours.

G.fast uses the existing copper phone line into the property to a new master socket faceplate, and injects an ultrafast signal into the line from a local 'pod' external to the property (but within a few hundred metres).

FTTP absolutely requires optical cable all the way inside the property where it ends at an ONT (optical network terminator) - part of the installation is drilling (where required) to get the optical cable in.

Sky typically aren't very clear about which version will be supplied: it depends on the local Openreach infrastructure. One clue is that 150Mbs can be delivered over either, but 500Mbs is only available on FTTP.

Re: New sky 4 hub .

jamesn123 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 15:58:39 GMT

If you use the address check on this site and post the results back here we can see which service you might get.

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:03:13 GMT

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Re: New sky 4 hub .

jamesn123 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:26:13 GMT

@mdc4566

Yeah so its FTTP but looks like cable may have already been installed

Re: New sky 4 hub .

cookiemonsteruk — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:35:06 GMT

@mdc4566

Civils install usually means the building contractor has had the civils team install the network terminal . However the notes "new ont may be ordered suggest otherwise Do you have a large white wall mounted openreach fibre optic modem hidden away in a closet or storage room etc.?

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:37:30 GMT

No ..no big box ...just the open reach box on the wall were the phone line plugs into ..a Mk3 .

Re: New sky 4 hub .

cookiemonsteruk — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:43:09 GMT

@mdc4566

Normally the first visit would be to drop or duct the fibre to the premises . A second visit is required to install the ont . However with 1 stage install meaning the fibre is already close to the house they may do both on the same day

Re: New sky 4 hub .

cookiemonsteruk — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:53:23 GMT

@mdc4566

Examples of ONT that will be installed :-

https://www.sky.com/help/articles/optical-network-terminal

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:48:31 GMT

I can't see a way of them putting in fibre optic cables into my house without digging up the brick paved driveway and drilling holes into the house ...that is definitely not an option.

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Re: New sky 4 hub .

cookiemonsteruk — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:59:40 GMT

@mdc4566

Where's you local exchange?

Vdsl (fttc) is already in stop sell for new subscribers. Anyone wanting superfast speeds (80Mbps) will have it provisioned through fttp anyway. Anyone currently on fttc may continue to do so until its withdrawn. Which will be anytime now up until December 2026

Re: New sky 4 hub .

jamesn123 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:25:11 GMT

@mdc4566

I would not worry too much, the engineer will explain what work would need to be done when they visit and you always have the final say as to whether it goes ahead or not. The chances are that the cable has already been pulled through underground and the engineer simply needs to drill a small hole in your house somewhere and splice it into an ONT.

Nice house by the way 😁

Re: New sky 4 hub .

mdc4566 — Wed, 10 Nov 2021 19:42:02 GMT

Thanks ...are you seeing the picture ..all I see on my post is a yellow and black triangle...any ideas ??