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    <title>topic Re: Mine is going back in Archive</title>
    <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3808360#M651626</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/3460674"&gt;@SteveF1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;As a Q customer expecting delivery of Glass today I've been seriously concerned about most of the flaws in this product. Some seem fixable with updates, some seem to be more symptomatic with the hardware and general ethos of the IPTV pulling things from OD services.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For anyone that has cancelled their Glass order before delivery, have they been able to just remain on their old deal/Q package and for those that accepted delivery what was Sky's position about accepting returns? Did they charge for collection, put you back on Q???&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ay help appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem is that Sky via IP was originally intended for people who couldn't have a dish. It took so long to be released that they've now gone on a marketing push that comes across as this being the next big thing and a replacement for Sky Q. It's not.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This seems like not much more than a better NOW product.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Cloud recording&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;- Originally touted as 1000 hours for everyone but with the majority of programming being linked to on-demand apps, they knew all along that no customer would ever use more than a couple of hours' worth of space at most. On that basis, I'm surprised they didn't tout it as "unlimited".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note that they have maintained that the Playlist will always get content from the best place - read: if it's on catch-up or on-demand, you will always get it there by default.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;HLG HDR &lt;/STRONG&gt;- Poor peak brightness with SDR (normal TV) content, meaning many people are having to turn off the automatic brightness and push the levels up. This was never going to work with HLG HDR as it was going to be too dull... people are now realising this in real-world settings now that the international break is over and Sky's weekend coverage has commenced again. I imagine more complaints today when Man Utd-Liverpool is on. The only people who won't complain about this are those with a Puck connected to their own third-party TV.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Use of the TV without a Sky subscription&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;- It's not going to be a smooth experience for customers no longer subscribed to Sky services. From the various sources I've read so far, I'm going to air on the benefit of doubt side and maintain that third-party apps can still be used, provided the TV is still linked to a Sky ID and is logged in. The issue for the user is that they would need to disconnect the TV from broadband in order to watch DTT/Freeview channels. They would need to do that whenever they wanted to go back into Netflix, for example, and switch it off again for Freeview. Sounds very tiresome having to do that all the time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The moral of the story is never buy a TV from a TV service provider because you're essentially paying for a glorified Sky box with its own screen. Spend your money on your own preferred TV and connect a Sky box or subscribe to NOW instead.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2021 06:22:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>d2h</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-10-24T06:22:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803024#M651593</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It's rubbish!!! My WiFi is fast enough but still it stutters, switches off, lags and is generally a waste of money. First thing tomorrow I'm arranging it's return and going back to sky Q.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Tried watching ITV hub this evening and it turned off twice and dropped Internet connection (the Internet was fine and fast enough)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are thinking of getting Glass please wait a good few months and read these boards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:40:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803024#M651593</guid>
      <dc:creator>michaelgale1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:40:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803030#M651594</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1061650"&gt;@michaelgale1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;First thing tomorrow I'm arranging it's return and going back to sky Q.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Presumably you'll lose any discounts you previously had with Sky Q?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:41:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803030#M651594</guid>
      <dc:creator>tarbat</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:41:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803032#M651595</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;True but at least I'll be able to watch tv&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:42:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803032#M651595</guid>
      <dc:creator>michaelgale1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:42:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803035#M651596</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1061650"&gt;@michaelgale1&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you want to return it here is how.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.sky.com/help/articles/return-sky-glass#need-a-hand" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.sky.com/help/articles/return-sky-glass#need-a-hand&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:43:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803035#M651596</guid>
      <dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:43:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803043#M651597</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is it really that bad then&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:45:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803043#M651597</guid>
      <dc:creator>Collo64</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:45:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803051#M651598</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In my opinion yes it is. I love gadgets and tech but it's clunky and very stop start&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:47:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803051#M651598</guid>
      <dc:creator>michaelgale1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:47:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803063#M651599</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry to hear that bet you were excited like I was going to be when I order mine on Friday&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:49:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803063#M651599</guid>
      <dc:creator>Collo64</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T20:49:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803092#M651600</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you have sky q I really don't get why you would get this.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've got it was we couldn't get Sky because of trees.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:00:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803092#M651600</guid>
      <dc:creator>AUS191</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T21:00:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803147#M651601</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am looking to return mine too as I'm not impressed with the whole playlist thing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The TV itself is great but pulling terrestrial programmes from their apps is a deal breaker for me, especially with the poor quality of ITV hub and 4OD.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:25:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803147#M651601</guid>
      <dc:creator>nogimmix</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T21:25:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803187#M651602</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1061650"&gt;@michaelgale1&lt;/a&gt;Have you tried going wired to the TV instead of wireless?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:43:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803187#M651602</guid>
      <dc:creator>LGUser</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T21:43:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803205#M651603</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I love the TV, but am also considering sending it back since I can't get it to update or activate. Wasted around 8 hours today trying to get it working and still no dice&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:53:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803205#M651603</guid>
      <dc:creator>DBKS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-20T21:53:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803435#M651604</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2777047"&gt;@nogimmix&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;pulling terrestrial programmes from their apps is a deal breaker for me&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Could you expand on the circumstances in which that happened?&amp;nbsp; Was it for live content, or after a search, or from the Playlist, for example?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 07:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803435#M651604</guid>
      <dc:creator>TimmyBGood</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T07:50:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803448#M651605</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm happy with mine - I had a trouble free set up and I'm generally pleased with the picture and sound. The picture is a little washed out - but I'll tweak it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've had trouble watching Film4 - but no other service.&amp;nbsp; The puck is working fine.&amp;nbsp; I'm only on 45mps BT - but it is very stable and I've never had any problems in the past with streaming even when there's a PS4 streaming and multiple other devices connected.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 08:00:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803448#M651605</guid>
      <dc:creator>S44TUH</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T08:00:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803461#M651606</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That gives me hope. I have 50mps, steady from Sky, so i shoud be ok.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 08:07:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803461#M651606</guid>
      <dc:creator>thurlstonesky</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T08:07:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803541#M651607</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/2593193"&gt;@thurlstonesky&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;That depends on what others want to do online and if there's enough bandwidth left.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 08:47:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3803541#M651607</guid>
      <dc:creator>LGUser</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T08:47:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805027#M651608</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Agree... ours is going back too.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:39:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805027#M651608</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tommo621</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T21:39:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805099#M651609</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Absolutely none of these issues on my set. Very strange to dismiss a product without trying to troubleshoot or giving Sky a chance to correct. Each to their own though.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:24:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805099#M651609</guid>
      <dc:creator>Satele</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T22:24:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805103#M651610</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Troubleshoot a brand new product that was marketed as plug and play, less hassle, less wires...some people can't even turn theirs on. &amp;nbsp;My choice was pay 1000 and something for the 65" glass or pay £2000 for a 65" OLED + Atmos sound bar....I'm taking the £2000 option because of all the issues with Glass. Rather would not give Sky money for an inferior product.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:30:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805103#M651610</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T22:30:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3805116#M651611</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Makes perfect sense to compare Glass to another product double the price - not.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do what works for you. Personally, I don't see any issues that are native to the produce and not user error or faulty hardware. There's solutions to both those things.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:46:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Satele</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-21T22:46:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mine is going back</title>
      <link>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3808155#M651612</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Had a positive experience on set up and the pic from the Pucks seem to be better than the sky mini boxes which is a plus.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;The real downside is the Sky Glass 65 inch itself the picture is awful really dark and washed out and nothing I have changes seems to make it better. Will check forums and see if anyone has a good settings list otherwise sending the thing back.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2021 20:02:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Archive/Mine-is-going-back/m-p/3808155#M651612</guid>
      <dc:creator>loontor</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-10-23T20:02:02Z</dc:date>
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