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How does the playlist work?

Annie+UK — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:59:04 GMT

Can anyone with Sky Glass give us a detailed explanation of the playlist

Does everything I add from the TV Guide have 12 months expiry even if playback comes from an app ie iPlayer etc...

What counts towards your 1,000 hours?

When a series is added can you mark things as watched?

When a series is added can you remove individual episodes from the playlist?

Adding YouTube VODs to the playlist, are they in their own section?

Any other details would be great 👍

Re: How does the playlist work?

matty147 — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:02:36 GMT

@Annie+UK I did like the sound of this playlist from what people are saying I'm not so sure now especially if I try part recording something like corrie and it gives 60 years worth of it. I'd just want the damn ep.

Re: How does the playlist work?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:02:42 GMT

Wish I could help! Can't work out how the hell it's supposed to work.😂

Re: How does the playlist work?

Annie+UK — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:07:57 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Wish I could help! Can't work out how the hell it's supposed to work.😂

The whole system hinges around this playlist and is a showstopper for me if it does not give much more than what I can access on my existing TV with iPlayer, ITV Hub, All4 etc... having everything listed in one place is nice but I'm ok without it ATM

Re: How does the playlist work?

nogimmix — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:15:41 GMT

It is a bit of a mess to be honest.

My wife added last nights episode of Eastenders but ended up with a list of episodes from yesteryear!! When she did select the right episode she was directed to iplayer, which was a bit long winded.

There is no "Watched" tag and I have not managed to remove an individual episode, like last night's Eastenders.

I thought the "cloud"based 1000 hours would include programmes you have selected within the guide but it seems to transfer you to the respective app.

Re: How does the playlist work?

AUS191 — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:18:34 GMT

It's simply app based. Nowhere near as good as sky q method

Re: How does the playlist work?

Rewind — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:20:47 GMT

I have just posted this in another thread but I think there has been a lot of misleading information on here concerning Playlist.

I have been saying this for ages since the Sky Glass announcement. I don't believe there is ANY cloud recording with Sky Glass. Where did people get the 1,000 hours stat from? It's not featured anywhere in Sky's materials apart from some rogue customer service Tweet.

As far as I understand it, all Playlist does is bookmark stuff and then takes you into the corresponding apps. Try it on a non-Sky channel and press + on something that is airing now and see what happens.

Programme rights are a nightmare for cloud based PVRs and I do not believe Sky have them hence the Playlist. If people are expecting a Sky Q or Sky+ experience, I think they will be sorely disappointed.

All content is merely housed in the respective apps, at least for the PSBs. Sky content might be available in the cloud but that's it.

Anyone able to prove otherwise?

Re: How does the playlist work?

oO0C4B4N4 — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:22:24 GMT

The idea of the playlist was what sold me the concept of Sky Glass. Why would we set something to save from the likes of ITV and be left with a sub standard version from the App? Also what happens when you want something like Aussie Gold Miners on Quest? Where is it going to get that from as discovery plus charges I think?

Re: How does the playlist work?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:22:24 GMT

@Annie+UK I'd stick to sky q.

Re: How does the playlist work?

gryffe — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:23:04 GMT

Don't know if it's just the newness of it ,but after just having a quick play about with the playlist I'm a bit frustrated with it so far. If you weren't used to Q you might love it perhaps, but initially I'm hacked off with it - eg programmes you add from the traditional terrestinal channels like BBC, ITV and C4 are played back via their catch up services - eg iPlayer etc. As othes have noted this clogs playlist up with multiple episodes from numerous series rather than just the most recent episode.

Also it appeared to be easier on Q to seperate programmes already recorded with programmes that were due to be recorded - to me the view of the playlist seems to mash everything together making it harder to pick out programmes you can watch from ones still to be aired..

Re: How does the playlist work?

Annie+UK — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:27:00 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

@Annie+UK I'd stick to sky q.

Impossible as we have Sky+ 🙂 Sky Q is not for this household 🙂

Re: How does the playlist work?

oO0C4B4N4 — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:29:03 GMT

@Annie+UK

Sky +, the days when technology was so much easier and simply worked 😉

Re: How does the playlist work?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:34:00 GMT

Bottom line is, if you get sky glass, you're gonna have to get used to the fact your traditional way of recording/saving programmes is gone. Just watching the news there, and you can't sort of press plus on that and save it for later. Unless it's on an app, be it itv, or sky, then you can't save it. You can literally only have programmes that are app based. So we either get used to that, or send it back. With their being no hard drive, I can't see how this will ever change.

Re: How does the playlist work?

Beek69 — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:34:22 GMT

still got my trusty sky +, was looking to upgrade to glass but seeing the issues especially "playlist" and "stuttering" I might pass and stick with my discounts!

Re: How does the playlist work?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:42:57 GMT

Here's a thought. This year free of fast forwarding ads? How is that even possible if you're not actually watching the version of the programme from the live feed? If it's all just being pulled from different apps, you still have to watch itv ads, and surely on demand sky programmes wouldn't have ad breaks in them. Are we talking about the ads they usually show before a programme like on sky go etc? Rather than fast forwarding ad breaks?

Re: How does the playlist work?

Rewind — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:44:33 GMT

Yep, it won't be ad breaks from linear broadcasts. Again, this is nowhere to be seen on the Sky website apart from during the checkout flow and in the small print. I imagine it means the pre and mid rolls for Sky Box Sets.

Re: How does the playlist work?

GD1 — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:46:34 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:
Here's a thought. This year free of fast forwarding ads? How is that even possible if you're not actually watching the version of the programme from the live feed? If it's all just being pulled from different apps, you still have to watch itv ads, and surely on demand sky programmes wouldn't have ad breaks in them. Are we talking about the ads they usually show before a programme like on sky go etc? Rather than fast forwarding ad breaks?

For Sky content such as On Demand movies there are no ads at the beginning of the movie, haven't tried it on the normal programme yet.

Re: How does the playlist work?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:47:54 GMT

@Rewind In my opinion, there usage of the words "fast forward the ads", which I have just googled and many news outlets have also reported it as it sounds, is massively misleading. To me, those words suggest you save a programme from live tv, it stores in your playlist, and when you go to watch it, it cuts out the ad breaks. I'm fairly sure 99% of people would have taken it to mean the same. The news reports certainly did.

Re: How does the playlist work?

Annie+UK — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:51:15 GMT

@Anonymous wrote:

Bottom line is, if you get sky glass, you're gonna have to get used to the fact your traditional way of recording/saving programmes is gone. Just watching the news there, and you can't sort of press plus on that and save it for later. Unless it's on an app, be it itv, or sky, then you can't save it. You can literally only have programmes that are app based. So we either get used to that, or send it back. With their being no hard drive, I can't see how this will ever change.

I know this, I've been using YouTube as my main content for years and creating my own playlists, I use iPlayer and All4 weekly and have not turned on my Sky box for months, I am used to that way of working, the way this implementation is being explained to me makes it so underwhelming and hardly a step up from what I am doing or have been doing for years

I was so hoping that this was going to be as good as it sounded on paper, I had the exact say thing at the Sky Q launch, one day sky may surprise me but not this time

Re: How does the playlist work?

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Oct 2021 21:55:15 GMT

Must admit I'm the same. I hardly even watch sky myself it's more the wife. But the glass makes my shield look better so I do like that.