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Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 15:51:13 GMT

With the FTTP unit do i still need to look for a modem/router combo or can I just look into geting a Netgear "gaming" Router one?

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

TimmyBGood — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:07:56 GMT

@StormWreck

With FTTP the Openreach ONT is the 'modem', so any router capable of making a WANoE connection should be suitable: you don't need a VDSL port. It may, however, be wise to purchase a model known to be compatible with the use by Sky of MER (sometimes referred to as DHCP Option 61).

Do note that no-one has yet identified a way of using Sky Talk over VOIP with a non-Sky router.

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:11:01 GMT

@StormWreck

XR 700

V1.0.1.10 and above

The above netgear and firmware will work with sky mer dhcp option 61

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:12:36 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk Would you happen to know if the Nighthawk XR1000 would work or one of the other versions? I'm looking into the Netduma part of the routers.

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:19:50 GMT

@StormWreck

Doesn't appear to work natively without flashing 3rd party firmware. However cannot find table of hardware for netduma. The other firmware would be ddwrt flashed to stock xr1000 again need to check ToH for that model

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:26:22 GMT

@StormWreck

No ddwrt support foq xr1000. Back to netduma. If you can buy it already customised with dumaos or is flashable with it and support mer/dhcp option 61 then it should work

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:31:07 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk Little clueless when it comes to networking hehe but the netduma is an OS on their "gaming" routers its from netgear itself. Quick look on their forums seems the XR1000 doesn't suport option 61 but its requested so maybe down the road 😞

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:33:12 GMT

Seems the XR500 does support it and its alot cheaper might be worh the punt @cookiemonsteruk ?

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:37:28 GMT

@StormWreck

On fttp authentiation is also done via dhcpv6 prefix delegation piggy backing off dhcp v4 (or vice versa ) sorry for techo babble 😁 but is a risky purchase if neither authentication is implemented

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:39:49 GMT

@StormWreck

Seems the XR500 does support it and its alot cheaper

Yeah, like xr700 it supports the client identifier natively

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 16:41:21 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk Cheers if nothing else it give me somthing else to tinker with to it works lol

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:30:49 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk Mind if i ask you a question seems I'm missing somthing, got the router decided to stick it through the normal ADSL sky router (no FTTP yet few weeks out) got it working without issues I can see the Xbox and TV and they connect and play games no problem but the Sky box isn't shown a connection and it says no internet did I miss a setting?

Set up atm is skyrouter set DMZ for XR500 connection to a S8000 switch where the TV, Xbox and Sky are lan cabbled in. Maybe its just an issues doing it this way until the FTTP gets put in or just a setting I'm forgeting to set?

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:46:40 GMT

@StormWreck

Is that a sky q main box ?

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 21:57:15 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk Yeah the non Q one 😛 I know something option 61 this is what the router OS has as an option but no idea what to type in 😛

Client Identifier String (option 61):

VCI Vendor Class Identifier (Option 60)

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:05:05 GMT

@StormWreck

Something appeared and disappeared. I think or i was seeing things. What box can't be seen sky tv box or sky router ?

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:06:14 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk Sorry if double post. Yeah I posted then I went off and came back no post :s weird at least I'm not going mad lol

No the non Q box the router has Client Identifier String (option 61) but no clue what to type in.

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:08:21 GMT

The Sky box is plugged into a network switch which is plugged into the XR500 which is plugged into the sky router in DMZ. The sky box itself reports no connection, but the other devices on the switch are fine 🙂

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:31:44 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk no idea two posts got ate. Non q box everything else is fine tho. Router got client string something option 61 but no clue what to enter

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

cookiemonsteruk — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:36:37 GMT

@StormWreck

The dhcp client identifier is in the format

12_character_netgear_mac_address@skydsl|last_6_characters

It will look like this

12345678abcd@skydsl|78abcd

Re: Getting Ultrafast BB and got a question on 3rd party router

StormWreck — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 22:52:24 GMT

@cookiemonsteruk what would be the bit after the skydsl part? Prob a silly question hehe